Talk:2 Ne 9:1-54

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Verses 6-10[edit]

Eric, thanks for the response to my question on infinite. It was interesting. --Matthew Faulconer 08:33, 9 Sep 2005 (CEST)

I didn't know what I would find when I started looking into it, so I thought it was interesting too. What it all means, though, I'm not sure. Eric 15:44, 9 Sep 2005 (CEST)

Verse 30[edit]

Here in verse 30 why doesn't Jacob give "the rich" an out in the same way he does the learned in verse 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
That's an interesting question. Perhaps it's because if you're learned you don't have the option of giving up your learning. But you do have the option of giving your possessions to the poor. You've definitely given me some food for thought. --Eric

That seems like a reasonable explanation especially if we think about what it means to live the law of consecration. And it squares with my reading of Matthew 6:19-21. The only problem I have with this interpretation is it seems to condemn every person who is rich. Are there any other scriptures that suggest that it is okay to be rich if we do it in the right way? If anybod finds any then maybe the question should be revised to ask how we reconcile this scripture with those.--Matthew Faulconer 06:33, 26 Jul 2005 (CEST)
The scripture that comes to my mind is Jacob 2:17-19 which notes that if we seek the Kingdom of God first and obtain a hope in Christ, then if we seek riches we will use them for with the right intent (i.e. clothe the naked, feed the hungry, etc.) so "that all may be rich like unto you." (vs Jacob 2:17). MJ 15:37, 26 Jul 2005 (CEST)
Of course, there are various other passages that seem to condemn all the rich, as in Matthew 19:24. I think one possibility is that in Bible times it was very difficult to become wealthy in a legitimate manner. In other words, if you were rich, you got that way through trampling over other people. Eric
I started looking at some of the general conference talks that make reference to the above mentioned verses. I didn't get too far but it is interesting. I've noted a couple of items on the relevant verses. --Matthew Faulconer 08:06, 27 Jul 2005 (CEST)

Verse 50[edit]

  • Verse 50 "and he that hath no money, come buy and eat; yea, come buy wine and milk without money and without price.

If it doesn't have a "price" and you get it for free, should it really be called "buying?" I think I would like the verse better if it deleted the "buy" verb and said:

"Come, my brethren, every one that thirsteth come ye to the waters; and he that hath no money, come _ and eat; yea, come [have] wine and milk without money and without price. [thanks to the Savior]
--RM Matheson 13:24, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)