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Chapter 17: Covenantal significance[edit]

Chennattu (p. 69, see below) suggests that John 13-17 follows a the structural outline of Josh 24:1-24. The outline is as follows:

1. Josh and the people gathered in the presence of God at Shechem (Josh 24:1)
1'. Jesus and the disciples gathered together for the farewell meal (John 13:1-38)
2. The proclamation of God's election and guidance of the people (Josh 24:2-13):
2'. The promise of God's indwelling presence and guidance (John 14:1-31)
3. A call to obedience and a call to decision (Josh 24:14-15)
3'. A call to abide and keep the commandments (John 15:1-17)
4. Josh's warning of the consequences of the decision (Josh 24:16-20)
4'. Jesus' warning of the consequences of discipleship (John 15:18-16:24)
5. The people's response of total allegiance to Yahweh (Josh 24:21-24)
5'. The disciples' profession of faith (John 16:25-33)
6. A ceremony sealing the covenant (Josh 24:25-28)
6'. A prayer consecrating the covenant community of the disciples (John 17:1-26)

If John 17 is read as a prayer that consecrates or seals the new covenant Jesus is offering the discipleship community (there also seem to be parallels with Ex 24:8), then several motifs in the chapter take on covenantal significance. In particular, this reading would suggest:

Chapter 17: Divine Relationships[edit]

Concept.

Letting the text speak for itself, we see that at least 7 elements of the relationship between the Father and the Son are repeated in the relationship between the Son and the Apostles. Two of the seven are also specifically applied to converts.

The Evidence.

7 Elements of the Divine Relationship:

Same 7 Elements Repeated Between the Son and the Apostles:

The Son Applies Two of the 7 Elements to Converts:

  • Converts can be one as the Father and Son. John 17:21-23
  • Converts receive glory of the Son. John 17:22

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  • John 17:3: Life eternal. Is this synonymous with eternal life, especially if the phrase is taken to mean "God's life"?
  • John 17:3: Know. To what extent are we relearning in our mortal probation what we already came to know about God in the premortal existence?
  • John 17:3: Only true God. Is this an acknowledgment that other Gods exist, but that only ours is true? Is it significant that the wording here differs from what is found in Ether 2:8?
  • John 17:11-12: When and how did Christ go from being in the world (v. 12) to "no more in the world" (v. 11)?

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  • John 17. Chennattu, Rekha M. Johannine Discipleship as a Covenant Relationship, Peabody: Hendrickson, 2006 (ISBN 1565636686).
  • John 17:3. Keith R. Edwards, "That They Might Know Thee," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 99–101. Elder Edwards states: "Although suffering may provide insight [into the Atonement], we must be careful not to compare but rather to appreciate... We can never endure the depth, the exquisite nature, or the magnitude of His suffering... [but] like Nephi, we can have a greater appreciation for that which He did, and we can feel His spirit succoring us, and we can know the Savior in a very real sense."

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