1 Ne 16:17-32

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DISCUSSION

Rather than complain and murmur Nephi acts. Crude example but one can't win lottery if one doesn't buy a ticket and play. Can't get Lord to perform a miracle if one doesn't do all he can. Nephi showed faith that he would get food.

Verse 28

Vs 28. Note: Nephi did not get answer where to go to get food from his dad, Lehi. He got it from Liahona. The mantle has passed from Lehi to Nephi. Lehi no doubt forgiven but his exalted status as Prophet is over. He'd had visions and yet murmured. He's done and doesn't contribute much else in leadership.


Ponder

Verse 32

Are we as members of the Church as excited to receive spiritual food as these people were to receive actual food?


Questions

Verse 17

  • If the food had been plentiful on the trail, so that they could obtain what they needed each day, was this an attempt to store up food for a journey of several days or had the food suddenly become more scarce? I doubt they would hunt each day. If so when would they travel? Probably had been many days since last hunted.

Verse 18

  • Could Nephi have done anything to prevent the breaking of his bow?

If Nephi had said "my bow broke" that would indicate it wasn't his fault. But "I broke my bow" indicates he caused it to break. My bow today would be my employment which is what helps me get food for my family. We can lose our jobs from external actions or our own actions. Bad things happen to good people. Interesting that Laman and Lemuel not mad at themselves for keeping their bows strung all that time to lose their tension.

Verse 19

  • Why couldn't they set traps to catch the game that their broken bows were unable to reach? This is no small group. There are a lot of people. I don't think traps for small game would be sufficient to feed them all.

Nephi uses "they did suffer" meaning he did not suffer for lack of food. Did God bless him to not be hungry?

Verse 20

  • Laman, Lemuel, and the sons of Ishmael didn’t murmur when they departed quickly (v. 10-11), but they do murmur now. What does that difference tell us? What does Lehi’s murmuring suggest?

Seems like L&L and sons of Ishmael 1st just complaining in general. This verse suggests Lehi was first to murmur against God. Is it okay to complain about what happens in life as long as don't blame God? I think Job complained.

Verse 21

  • Was there something in the climate that caused all of the bows to break down at the same time?

Verse 22

  • Did Nephi have encouraging or reprimanding words for his brothers?

Verse 23

  • For what kinds of reasons might Nephi have asked his father where he should go to hunt? Why just one arrow? Time? Faith it would only take one arrow? His bow was broken not his arrows, why not use those? When bows didn't work why didn't they proceed with sling and stone if they used them also to hunt big game? Nephi has received a lot of revelation on his own, why ask his Father to ask Lord? Why not ask himself? Probably same reason we ask new or recently activated members to pray, give talks, or give blessings. They need the spiritual experiences to develop greater faith.

Verse 24

  • Did Nephi lecture and humble his father as much as he did with his brothers? How did Nephi know what to say that would humble them? The soul is = Spirit + body. What is "energy of my soul." ? Testimony? Faith?

Verse 25

  • Did Nephi ever chasten the members of his family, or did he usually leave that up to the Lord and angels? Did Lehi hear audible voice or just in his mind? What is chastened? Yelled at? Made to feel guilty? 2 kinds of sorrow. Sorrow for getting caught and godly sorrow that brings to repentance.

Verse 26

  • Why was the Lord so quick to answer Lehi's prayers, given the lack of faith he had demonstrated? God not like us He doesn't hold a grudge. The moment we turn to God He turns to us. Already chastened so why have to read scary things on Liahona? The Liahona only works when one has faith. Wouldn't work until Lehi had prayed, confessed sin, had godly sorrow and been forgiven. The other purpose to look at Liahona was to get others who have not yet been humbled to be able to read words, be scared, and repent.

Verse 27

  • What things did the Liahona communicate to Lehi and his family that caused them to "fear and tremble exceedingly?" Wish I had a "ball" to tell me how I am doing or what I should be doing. Wonder why Nephi didn't quote what the ball said?

Verse 28

  • It is relatively simple to see the Liahona as a metaphor for other things in our spiritual lives that “work according to the faith and diligence and heed which we . . . give unto them.” What are some of those things? Why is our spiritual life like that?

Verse 29

  • Nephi himself draws a lesson from the Liahona: “by small means the Lord can bring about great things.” Why might the Lord choose to work by small means? What are some of the small means in your own life that have brought about great ends?
  • Why did they get a God made object to guide them? Why don't we have it today? Answers: The quote, "A Prophet is without honor in his own country". Well more so in own family. Lehi needed Liahona so non-members and nonbelieving family members would continue the journey. Lehi did not have church magazines and conferences to draw inspiration from. We have so many more avenues to be prompted by God than Lehi had.

Verse 30

  • Is this the first time that Nephi has gotten into a mountain by his own effort?
  • Why was Nephi directed to go “up into the top of the mountain” to slay beasts? Was that just where the animals were, or is there something else going on?
  • Since mountaintops are holy places, actual natural temples, is there something else going on here related to killing beasts on mountains/temples?

Verse 31

  • Why is there a footnote here to Gen 9:3? Is this to indicate that somehow Nephi killing beasts on the mount is related to the LORD's covenant with Noah after the flood that allowed Noah and his posterity to eat wild animals?

Verse 32

  • Why did Laman and Lemuel allow Nephi to become the new provider for the extended family, rather than asserting their own dominance over the party?

Answer: having Nephi do the work was dominance over him. He was doing the work of a servant.




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