Talk:D&C 128:1-5

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verse 5[edit]

re: "ordained and prepared before the foundation of the world" -- aren't there a lot of things that were ordained and prepared before the foundation of the world, including baptism? I don't see any suggestion in this section that baptism for the dead was performed before Adam was baptized. I assume that "this order of things" is not referring to when baptism for the dead was introduced but rather the order of how it is to be recorded. --Matthew Faulconer 06:14, 14 Nov 2006 (UTC)

Is there a middle road between the two positions? The verse, as Matthew points out rightly, is speaking of the work of recording in the particular manner Joseph lays out (which he ties to Rev 20:12 in an amazing hermeneutic). At the same time, it is clearly stated to be a power particularly for the salvation of the dead. The horizon is a bit broader, I think, than it seems. There is a plan laid from the foundation of the world for the salvation of the dead, for their deliverance from death, and there is an ordinance performed in order to make such a thing possible. Baptism for the dead just might be that, as later verses (12 especially) seem to suggest. I'm trying to wrestle with just these questions, and I'd like to take a very close look at this verse. I'll post later today, if time affords it. --Joe Spencer 17:44, 14 Nov 2006 (UTC)