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Hi MJ, thanks for finding the link. It looks like I didn't drill down enough. --[[User:Matthewfaulconer|Matthew Faulconer]] 22:49, 21 Sep 2005 (CEST) | Hi MJ, thanks for finding the link. It looks like I didn't drill down enough. --[[User:Matthewfaulconer|Matthew Faulconer]] 22:49, 21 Sep 2005 (CEST) | ||
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I always feel guilty leaving a question without offering some sort of comment or thought. And since I'm not really planning to come back to this question, let me just offer a couple superficial thoughts: | I always feel guilty leaving a question without offering some sort of comment or thought. And since I'm not really planning to come back to this question, let me just offer a couple superficial thoughts: | ||
I think this is interesting b/c idols are such an important OT topic but not mentioned much in the triple combination. But the following several chapters are very famous Mormon chapters and this verse fixes idolatry firmly as part of the background context for all of this. But in addressing the "cure" for idolatry, Alma and Amulek do not mention idolatry at all, but rather seem to build toward a focus on Christ (esp. chapters 33-34). This also reminds me of the pop psychology notion of not dwelling on negatives. Rather than dwelling on the idolatry of the Zoramites, Alma and Amulek focus on the process of building faith. On the other hand, it may just be that it is only the rich class of Zoramites that has a problem with idolatry, not the poor, and since only the poor class really listened, we don't hear about idolatry again. --[[User:RobertC|RobertC]] 15:52, 25 Jan 2007 (UTC) | I think this is interesting b/c idols are such an important OT topic but not mentioned much in the triple combination. But the following several chapters are very famous Mormon chapters and this verse fixes idolatry firmly as part of the background context for all of this. But in addressing the "cure" for idolatry, Alma and Amulek do not mention idolatry at all, but rather seem to build toward a focus on Christ (esp. chapters 33-34). This also reminds me of the pop psychology notion of not dwelling on negatives. Rather than dwelling on the idolatry of the Zoramites, Alma and Amulek focus on the process of building faith. On the other hand, it may just be that it is only the rich class of Zoramites that has a problem with idolatry, not the poor, and since only the poor class really listened, we don't hear about idolatry again. --[[User:RobertC|RobertC]] 15:52, 25 Jan 2007 (UTC) | ||
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| + | I'm wondering if the Zoramites were apostate before or after they separated mainly in an effort to better understand Alma's words in chapter 32. It seems the poor have fallen away from the faith they inherited as Nephites, though I'm not sure if it's really important whether this occurred before or after they separated. | ||
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| + | Since I've been advocating personal application lately, I do think it's interesting to think about the possiblity of separation as a symption of apostacy. This seems to be a common theme in the Book of Mormon. Where is it that the people separate themselves according to their opportunities for learning etc.? Regardless of their eventual motivations for separating, it seems clear that this kind of pride is at work with the rich class of Zoramites who set themselves up on the Rameampton.... --[[User:RobertC|RobertC]] 00:03, 26 Jan 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Teaching manual link
Hi BenRasmussen,
I deleted your comment from the commentary page:
- See the Church manual entitled "Teaching, No Greater Call - Chapter 10: The Power of the Word."
The reason I deleted it was that I went to the Church's website to find the link to this chapter and I couldn't find the chapter in that book. I wonder if you are looking at an older edition. Do you have an alternate chapter that serve's the same purpose in the current edition we could link to instead?
--Matthew Faulconer 07:07, 5 Sep 2005 (CEST)
PS Here is the link to Teaching, No Greater Call
Hi MJ, thanks for finding the link. It looks like I didn't drill down enough. --Matthew Faulconer 22:49, 21 Sep 2005 (CEST)
Idols (v.1)
I always feel guilty leaving a question without offering some sort of comment or thought. And since I'm not really planning to come back to this question, let me just offer a couple superficial thoughts:
I think this is interesting b/c idols are such an important OT topic but not mentioned much in the triple combination. But the following several chapters are very famous Mormon chapters and this verse fixes idolatry firmly as part of the background context for all of this. But in addressing the "cure" for idolatry, Alma and Amulek do not mention idolatry at all, but rather seem to build toward a focus on Christ (esp. chapters 33-34). This also reminds me of the pop psychology notion of not dwelling on negatives. Rather than dwelling on the idolatry of the Zoramites, Alma and Amulek focus on the process of building faith. On the other hand, it may just be that it is only the rich class of Zoramites that has a problem with idolatry, not the poor, and since only the poor class really listened, we don't hear about idolatry again. --RobertC 15:52, 25 Jan 2007 (UTC)
Cause or result of apostacy? (v.2)
I'm wondering if the Zoramites were apostate before or after they separated mainly in an effort to better understand Alma's words in chapter 32. It seems the poor have fallen away from the faith they inherited as Nephites, though I'm not sure if it's really important whether this occurred before or after they separated.
Since I've been advocating personal application lately, I do think it's interesting to think about the possiblity of separation as a symption of apostacy. This seems to be a common theme in the Book of Mormon. Where is it that the people separate themselves according to their opportunities for learning etc.? Regardless of their eventual motivations for separating, it seems clear that this kind of pride is at work with the rich class of Zoramites who set themselves up on the Rameampton.... --RobertC 00:03, 26 Jan 2007 (UTC)
