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Also, if I had to guess what you're getting at, it seems you mean something like Jonah making a liar out of God. That is, God said he would punish Nineveh, and with Nineveh repenting, God's word effectively becomes suspicious/dubitable. Or perhaps you are going in the same direction we did on Jim's lesson, that Jonah is upset b/c he didn't want God to be merciful to the Ninevites? --[[User:RobertC|RobertC]] 16:42, 4 Sep 2006 (UTC) | Also, if I had to guess what you're getting at, it seems you mean something like Jonah making a liar out of God. That is, God said he would punish Nineveh, and with Nineveh repenting, God's word effectively becomes suspicious/dubitable. Or perhaps you are going in the same direction we did on Jim's lesson, that Jonah is upset b/c he didn't want God to be merciful to the Ninevites? --[[User:RobertC|RobertC]] 16:42, 4 Sep 2006 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :Re: false prophets, [[Deut 18:22]] is interesting in this context--though I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm not sure I can defend this interpretation ver well, but I had presumed that when Jonah says "I fled ... for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful..." that Jonah's concern was simply that he didn't want the people to repent. I can see that maybe being made a fool of was part of his concern, but I always read this as a case where Jonah doesn't want people outside of Israel to enjoy the blessings Israel enjoys. --[[User:Matthewfaulconer|Matthew Faulconer]] 06:31, 5 Sep 2006 (UTC) | ||
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False prophet?
Joe, I'm anxious to hear you elaborate on these thoughts, I'm really not sure what you mean by false prophet. Over at Jim F.'s SS lesson, we discussed these verses a bit. In particular, I think it's important to understand Jonah's desire to die, and I think it's a purposeful contrast to Moses and Elijah who also wanted to die—but ironically, their desire to die was b/c the people would not repent whereas Jonah's desire to die is b/c the people did repent. I think this is the most straightforward (i.e. facile!) way to read this.
I think another way to read this might be that Jonah was trying to commit a premeditated sin—that is, he knew he could refuse the prophetic call and that he could repent later and God would be merciful. But I think this reading is a stretch....
Also, if I had to guess what you're getting at, it seems you mean something like Jonah making a liar out of God. That is, God said he would punish Nineveh, and with Nineveh repenting, God's word effectively becomes suspicious/dubitable. Or perhaps you are going in the same direction we did on Jim's lesson, that Jonah is upset b/c he didn't want God to be merciful to the Ninevites? --RobertC 16:42, 4 Sep 2006 (UTC)
- Re: false prophets, Deut 18:22 is interesting in this context--though I'm not sure what to make of it. I'm not sure I can defend this interpretation ver well, but I had presumed that when Jonah says "I fled ... for I knew that thou art a gracious God, and merciful..." that Jonah's concern was simply that he didn't want the people to repent. I can see that maybe being made a fool of was part of his concern, but I always read this as a case where Jonah doesn't want people outside of Israel to enjoy the blessings Israel enjoys. --Matthew Faulconer 06:31, 5 Sep 2006 (UTC)
