Difference between revisions of "D&C 76:25-49"

From Feast upon the Word (http://feastupontheword.org). Copyright, Feast upon the Word.
Jump to: navigation, search
m (KurtElieson moved page D&C 76:41-45 to D&C 76:25-49: Regrouping content)
m (Moving content to regrouped page)
Line 1: Line 1:
[[Doctrine & Covenants]] > [[Doctrine & Covenants 76|Section 76]]
+
[[Home]] > [[Doctrine & Covenants]] > [[Doctrine & Covenants 76|Section 76]] > [[D&C 76:25-49 | Verses 76:25-49]] <br>
{| 
+
[[D&C 76:1-24 | Previous page: Verses 76:1-24]] &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [[D&C 76:50-70 | Next page: Verses 76:50-70]]
| [[D&C 76:36-40|Previous (D&C 76:36-40)]] || &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; || [[D&C 76:46-50|Next (D&C 76:46-50)]]
+
 
|}
+
== Discussion ==
 +
 
 +
* v 37: The phrase "second death" [http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=%22second+death%22&search.x=12&search.y=12&search=Search&newsearch=ok&OT=1&NT=1&BM=1&DC=1&PGP=1&TX=1 isn't used much] in the scriptures. In the bible the phrase is used only 4 times--all in Revelations. There it is defined as "the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone" ([[Rev 21:8]]) where those not found written in the book of life are cast into ([[Rev 20:14|Rev 20:14-15]]) at the final judgement. Revelations tells us that the fearful, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, whoremongers, sorcerers, idolaters, and liars will all have some part in this second death ([[Rev 21:8]]).
 +
 
 +
* v 41-45: If we look back at verse 40 we see that the Lord has introduced these verses by saying "This is the gospel...--" These verses are an explanation of what the gospel is, or in other words, what the glad tidings are. What are these glad tidings? We learn about an eternal punishment in Revelations, "the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone" ([[Rev 21:8]]) where the wicked are cast in. This punishment is the second death spoken of in [[D&C 76:37|verse 37]]. The glad tidings of the gospel, the point of these verses, is that very few will suffer this punishment, this second death. Instead, through the atonement, Christ will save all but the sons of perdition from this awful state. He will even save those who have committed serious sin: liars, sorcerers, adulterers, etc. (Note that in [[D&C 76:108|verse 108]] we are told that these sinners will inherit the telestial kingdom. This assumes of course that they neither receive the testimony of Jesus (and thus inherit a better kingdom) or deny openly Christ (and become a son of perdition).
 +
 
 
== Questions ==
 
== Questions ==
 +
 +
===Verse 26===
 +
* What is a "son of the morning"?
 +
 +
===Verse 29===
 +
* What is Satan's work and glory?  Does he focus on the world at large, or is he focused on making "war with the saints"?
 +
* What does it mean for Satan to encompass the saints round about?
 +
 +
===Verse 30===
 +
* Why does this vision of the degrees of glory start with a vision of Satan and the sons of perdition?
 +
 +
===Verse 31===
 +
* What are the exact requirements for becoming a son of perdition?  How much power does one have to know and partake of and then deny? 
 +
* What is the power of the LORD that sons of perdition know, partake of, then deny?
 +
 +
===Verse  33===
 +
* What does it mean to be a "vessel of wrath"?
 +
* What does it mean for sons of perdition to suffer with the devil and his angels "in eternity"?
 +
 +
===Verse 34===
 +
* Why is there no forgiveness for sons of perdition?
 +
* What does it mean to have no forgiveness "in this world nor in the world to come"?  What is "the world to come?  Does this mean that they can never ever, ever, ever, ever be forgiven or only that they can't be forgiven in this life and the spirit world?  What happens to them after that?
 +
 +
===Verse 35===
 +
* How do sons of perdition deny the Holy Spirit?
 +
* How do sons of perdition deny the Only Begotten Son of the Father?
 +
* What does it mean to crucify the LORD unto themselves?
 +
* What does it mean to put the LORD to an open shame?  What is an "open shame"?
 +
 +
===Verse 36===
 +
* What does it mean that the sons of perdition will "go away" with the devil and his angels? 
 +
* Who are the "angels" of the devil?  Why are they called angels?
 +
* What is "the lake of fire and brimstone" where the devil and his angels will go?
 +
 +
===Verse 37===
 +
* What is the "second death"?
 +
* Why are the sons of perdition the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power (verse 37)? If we think of the second death as being removed from the presence of God due to sin, then we might think this second death still has some power over those who live in the telestial or terrestial worlds. What does it mean to say that the second death doesn't have any power over those people?
 +
 +
===Verse 38===
 +
* What does it mean to "not be redeemed"?
 +
* What does "the due time of the Lord" mean?
 +
* What are "the sufferings of his wrath"?
 +
* Does this explain how the sons of perdition differ from those in the Telestial Kingdom, who are eventually redeemed from the second death after paying the price for their sins?
 +
 +
===Verse 39===
 +
* What does it mean that the LORD was "in the bosom of the Father"?
 +
* What are the "worlds" that were made?  Does this refer to the creation of other earths?
 +
 
===Verse 41===
 
===Verse 41===
 
* What does it mean to come into the world?
 
* What does it mean to come into the world?
Line 30: Line 83:
 
* What is the "end" mentioned here?  Is it the end of the sons of perdition of just of their torment?  Does this imply that their torment will eventually end?
 
* What is the "end" mentioned here?  Is it the end of the sons of perdition of just of their torment?  Does this imply that their torment will eventually end?
  
== Lexical notes ==
+
===Verse 46===
* ''Click the edit link above and to the right to add lexical notes''
+
* Why is the end, place, or torment of the sons of perdition not revealed except "to them who are made partakers thereof"?
  
 +
===Verse 47===
 +
* Since the LORD just said that he doesn't reveal the end, place, or torment of the sons of perdition, how is it that "many" are shown "it" in a vision?  What is it that isn't revealed in that vision?  Is it the feeling associated with the torment?  The "place" of the torment?  The "end" of those tormented?
 +
* What does it mean for a vision to be shut up?
  
== Exegesis ==
+
===Verse 48===
If we look back at verse 40 we see that the Lord has introduced these verses by saying "This is the gospel...--" These verses are an explanation of what the gospel is, or in other words, what the glad tidings are. What are these glad tidings? We learn about an eternal punishment in Revelations, "the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone" ([[Rev 21:8]]) where the wicked are cast in. This punishment is the second death spoken of in [[D&C 76:37|verse 37]]. The glad tidings of the gospel, the point of these verses, is that very few will suffer this punishment, this second death. Instead, through the atonement, Christ will save all but the sons of perdition from this awful state. He will even save those who have committed serious sin: liars, sorcerers, adulterers, etc. (Note that in [[D&C 76:108|verse 108]] we are told that these sinners will inherit the telestial kingdom. This assumes of course that they neither receive the testimony of Jesus (and thus inherit a better kingdom) or deny openly Christ (and become a son of perdition).
+
* Does this help explain what isn't revealed in the vision of the sons of perdition?
 +
* What is the "end" or the "height" or the "depth" mentioned here?
 +
* What does it mean to be "ordained" to this condemnation?  Is it literally an ordination, or does this mean something else?
 +
 
 +
===Verse 49===
 +
* Why are the sons of perdition considered "ungodly"?
  
 
== Related links ==
 
== Related links ==
* In [http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Curriculum/sunday%20school.htm/dc%20church%20history%20study%20guide.htm/19%20the%20plan%20of%20salvation.htm?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0 lesson 19], The D&C and Church History Class Member Study Guide asks in reference to these and other verses "Why is the Atonement central to the plan of salvation?" (See exegesis above.)
 
  
 +
* Verses 76:30-49: Brigham Young on fate of sons of perdition, [http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=%2FJournalOfDiscourses3&CISOPTR=9599&REC=1&CISOBOX=flaming+fire Journal of Discourses 1:118]
 +
 +
* In [http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Curriculum/sunday%20school.htm/dc%20church%20history%20study%20guide.htm/19%20the%20plan%20of%20salvation.htm?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0 lesson 19], The D&C and Church History Class Member Study Guide asks in reference to these (v 41-45) and other verses "Why is the Atonement central to the plan of salvation?" (See exegesis above.)
  
 
----
 
----
{| 
+
 
| [[D&C 76:36-40|Previous (D&C 76:36-40)]] || &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; || [[D&C 76:46-50|Next (D&C 76:46-50)]]
+
[[D&C 76:1-24 | Previous page: Verses 76:1-24]] &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [[D&C 76:50-70 | Next page: Verses 76:50-70]]
|}
+

Revision as of 01:19, 6 November 2015

Home > Doctrine & Covenants > Section 76 > Verses 76:25-49
Previous page: Verses 76:1-24                      Next page: Verses 76:50-70

Discussion

  • v 37: The phrase "second death" isn't used much in the scriptures. In the bible the phrase is used only 4 times--all in Revelations. There it is defined as "the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone" (Rev 21:8) where those not found written in the book of life are cast into (Rev 20:14-15) at the final judgement. Revelations tells us that the fearful, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, whoremongers, sorcerers, idolaters, and liars will all have some part in this second death (Rev 21:8).
  • v 41-45: If we look back at verse 40 we see that the Lord has introduced these verses by saying "This is the gospel...--" These verses are an explanation of what the gospel is, or in other words, what the glad tidings are. What are these glad tidings? We learn about an eternal punishment in Revelations, "the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone" (Rev 21:8) where the wicked are cast in. This punishment is the second death spoken of in verse 37. The glad tidings of the gospel, the point of these verses, is that very few will suffer this punishment, this second death. Instead, through the atonement, Christ will save all but the sons of perdition from this awful state. He will even save those who have committed serious sin: liars, sorcerers, adulterers, etc. (Note that in verse 108 we are told that these sinners will inherit the telestial kingdom. This assumes of course that they neither receive the testimony of Jesus (and thus inherit a better kingdom) or deny openly Christ (and become a son of perdition).

Questions

Verse 26

  • What is a "son of the morning"?

Verse 29

  • What is Satan's work and glory? Does he focus on the world at large, or is he focused on making "war with the saints"?
  • What does it mean for Satan to encompass the saints round about?

Verse 30

  • Why does this vision of the degrees of glory start with a vision of Satan and the sons of perdition?

Verse 31

  • What are the exact requirements for becoming a son of perdition? How much power does one have to know and partake of and then deny?
  • What is the power of the LORD that sons of perdition know, partake of, then deny?

Verse 33

  • What does it mean to be a "vessel of wrath"?
  • What does it mean for sons of perdition to suffer with the devil and his angels "in eternity"?

Verse 34

  • Why is there no forgiveness for sons of perdition?
  • What does it mean to have no forgiveness "in this world nor in the world to come"? What is "the world to come? Does this mean that they can never ever, ever, ever, ever be forgiven or only that they can't be forgiven in this life and the spirit world? What happens to them after that?

Verse 35

  • How do sons of perdition deny the Holy Spirit?
  • How do sons of perdition deny the Only Begotten Son of the Father?
  • What does it mean to crucify the LORD unto themselves?
  • What does it mean to put the LORD to an open shame? What is an "open shame"?

Verse 36

  • What does it mean that the sons of perdition will "go away" with the devil and his angels?
  • Who are the "angels" of the devil? Why are they called angels?
  • What is "the lake of fire and brimstone" where the devil and his angels will go?

Verse 37

  • What is the "second death"?
  • Why are the sons of perdition the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power (verse 37)? If we think of the second death as being removed from the presence of God due to sin, then we might think this second death still has some power over those who live in the telestial or terrestial worlds. What does it mean to say that the second death doesn't have any power over those people?

Verse 38

  • What does it mean to "not be redeemed"?
  • What does "the due time of the Lord" mean?
  • What are "the sufferings of his wrath"?
  • Does this explain how the sons of perdition differ from those in the Telestial Kingdom, who are eventually redeemed from the second death after paying the price for their sins?

Verse 39

  • What does it mean that the LORD was "in the bosom of the Father"?
  • What are the "worlds" that were made? Does this refer to the creation of other earths?

Verse 41

  • What does it mean to come into the world?
  • How was Christ crucified "for the world"?
  • How does Christ "bear the sins of the world"? Is this different from "paying the price" of sin?
  • What does it mean to "sanctify the world"?
  • How does the atonement "cleanse" the world "from all unrighteousness"?

Verse 42

  • How many are "saved" by Christ? What does it mean to be "saved"?
  • Who are those "whom the Father had put into his power"? How can we be "put into his power"?
  • How are we "made by" Christ?

Verse 43

  • How does Christ glorify the Father?
  • What are "all the works of his hands"? Is this just people, or the rest of creation? What do "hands" have to do with work? What is this "work"? Is it the same as creation?
  • What does it mean to "deny the Son after the Father has revealed him"? How is the Son revealed by the Father?

Verse 44

  • What does it mean that Christ saves all except the sons of perdition? Does this mean that being saved is the same as inheriting one of the three kingdoms of glory, or just that all eventually escape "the second death" and "the lake of fire and brimstone"?
  • What is "everlasting punishment"? Are everlasting, endless, and eternal all synonyms here, or do the represent different aspects of this punishment?
  • What does it mean for the sons of perdition to "reign" with the deveil?
  • What does it mean that "their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched"? How is this a torment?

Verse 45

  • What is the "end" mentioned here? Is it the end of the sons of perdition of just of their torment? Does this imply that their torment will eventually end?

Verse 46

  • Why is the end, place, or torment of the sons of perdition not revealed except "to them who are made partakers thereof"?

Verse 47

  • Since the LORD just said that he doesn't reveal the end, place, or torment of the sons of perdition, how is it that "many" are shown "it" in a vision? What is it that isn't revealed in that vision? Is it the feeling associated with the torment? The "place" of the torment? The "end" of those tormented?
  • What does it mean for a vision to be shut up?

Verse 48

  • Does this help explain what isn't revealed in the vision of the sons of perdition?
  • What is the "end" or the "height" or the "depth" mentioned here?
  • What does it mean to be "ordained" to this condemnation? Is it literally an ordination, or does this mean something else?

Verse 49

  • Why are the sons of perdition considered "ungodly"?

Related links

  • In lesson 19, The D&C and Church History Class Member Study Guide asks in reference to these (v 41-45) and other verses "Why is the Atonement central to the plan of salvation?" (See exegesis above.)

Previous page: Verses 76:1-24                      Next page: Verses 76:50-70