Talk:3 Ne 13:11-15

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Travis wrote in the exegesis section:

Verse 14 really is profound, if we are judging it is a sin, therefore we are not worthy of entering into the kingdom of God. However, if we forgive our fellow man God will forgive us. It works on two levels. If we forgive we are not judging therefore we are eliminating 1 sin, and replacing it with mercy and christlike attribute.

Travis, thanks for your post. --Matthew Faulconer 06:44, 24 Oct 2005 (CEST)

Travis & All, I think behind Travis's post is an interesting question about the relationship between judging and forgiveness. Is it really true that "if we forgive we are not judging therefore we are eliminating 1 sin"? This implies that one cannot both judge and forgive. Certainly one can make a righteous judgement and then forgive. So suppose we restrict the claim to unrighteous judgement. Can one make an unrighteous judgement and then forgive? Maybe forgiveness presupposes either no judgement or a righteous one. I'm not sure. In any case, I don't see this point as part of explaining what the text says--i.e. it isn't exegesis. I think the issue is best discussed here on the discussion page. --Matthew Faulconer 06:44, 24 Oct 2005 (CEST)