Talk:1 Ne 8:19-28

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Great and Spacious Building is the Temple?[edit]

Just a thought here, could the great and spacious building that Lehi saw be a symbol of the temple at Jerusalem, which Lehi may have considered desecrated by the Deuteronomic reforms?--Rob Fergus 03:29, 5 February 2007 (CET)

Hi Rob, I hadn't thought of it that way. What would make you think that this is a symbol of a corrupted temple? --Matthew Faulconer 06:19, 5 February 2007 (CET)

Someone's been reading Margaret Barker? I think this is a good reading (I'd never thought of this before either). It would match up well with some of the descriptions of the contemporary temple in Ezekiel. Hmm... --Joe Spencer 16:15, 5 February 2007 (CET)

Joe, you know I'm a Barker fan and think that Mormon Temple Theology is the way to go. And in fact yesterday I was re-reading some Barker (her The New Church essay), and was struck by some of the imagery in some of the Enoch literature that she cites, which includes the temple, a stream-lined ravine, and the tree of life (p.9). I haven't had time to look at this more closely yet, hense the cautious note. It was more of an impression, which led to this initial note, to see how if anyone else had been thinking about this. Maybe I'll spend a little time with it today and see where it takes me.

Another thing that I find interesting with this thought, is how Nephi describes the building as being destroyed after the death and resurrection of the Lord 1 Ne 11:36. Seems to echo apocalyptic discussions of the destruction of Herod's temple? There seems to be a lot here, though not sure how far we can take it without it becoming too much of a stretch. But something about this tastes good to me.--Rob Fergus 18:00, 5 February 2007 (CET)

I'd like to pursue this a little farther as well. Have you ever seen/read Nibley's Book of Mormon lectures? You ought to read/see his lecture on the Tree of Life vision. He discusses an ancient tradition that the Jerusalem temple, because it was on the top of a mountain, had an iron rod that led the way up to it. And of course there is the parallel between the tree and the menorah. Is Lehi's vision about the "true" versus the "false/apostate" temple? Or might it suggest that the time will come that we will worship neither in Mount Gerizim nor in Jerusalem but in Spirit and Truth (at the tree, but not in the building)? I need to think about these things a bit more. (If you don't have access to Nibley's lectures, I've got a computerized copy of that lecture I can e-mail to you.) --Joe Spencer 16:19, 6 February 2007 (CET)

fell down[edit]

Chad, interesting question. I have no clue. It doesn't seem to make sense to me that they'd fall down to eat fruit on a tree. --Matthew Faulconer 06:37, 21 June 2007 (CEST)