Talk:Moro 7:20-39

I think I misinterpreted Kempj's point editing this earlier (v. 25 here in Moro 7, not verse 25 in Alma 32!). I tried to add back what I think Kempj's comment might've been getting at, feel free to edit more. --RobertC 20:04, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Here is my understanding of the pronouns in verses 30 and 31:

30 For behold, they [the angels] are subject unto him [Christ], to minister according to the word of his command, showing themselves unto them [the children of men] of strong faith and a firm mind in every form of godliness.

31 And the office of their [the angels'] ministry is to call men unto repentance, and to fulfil and to do the work of the covenants of the Father, which he [the Father] hath made unto the children of men, to prepare the way among the children of men, by declaring the word of Christ unto the chosen vessels of the Lord, that they [the chosen vessels] may bear testimony of him [the Lord].

As a missionary I thought the "their" in verse 31 referred to missionaries or men of strong faith and a firm mind. Now, I wonder how these verses might relate to Section 13 in the Doctrine and Covenant where the Aaronic priesthood "holds the keys of the ministering of angels, and of the gospel of repentance?" MJ 13:48, 17 Feb 2006 (UTC)

Thanks MJ. That makes sense to me. I put it on the commentary page. I introduced it as "the reading that makes the most sense." If others have alternate ideas about how the pronouns work feel free to discuss. --Matthew Faulconer 22:30, 18 Feb 2006 (UTC)

User:Jaromhansen asked:

• In the last verse are we to assume that God assigns angels to appear tp people or is it the angels that choose to appear to people?

Here's my interpretation of verse 30 as it relates to this question: Angels are subject unto Christ and help people according to what he tells them. I didn't add this to the exegesis section because this seems pretty straightforward. The question about how the interaction between Christ and Angels works--how much is based on what an angel wants to do versus how much is a direct command by Christ--this question, I believe, gets to a level of detail that is really beyond what Moroni is trying to comment on here.--Matthew Faulconer 05:22, 11 Dec 2005 (UTC)

What are the ways we might understand the phrase "which is good" in verse 26 given the rest of this chapter? From verse 12 we learn "all things which are good cometh of God" and in verse 16 we are told that "every thing which inviteth to do good, and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth by the power and gift of Christ; wherefore ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of God" (or in other words ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is good.) These verses make me think that verse 26 is primarily devoted to instructing people how to obtain hope, faith, or other "goods" that persuade us to believe in Christ. How wide a range of "goods" are there that persuade people to believe in Christ? MJ 13:05, 9 Feb 2006 (UTC)

I have always thought the point of the "all things" par in "all things which are good" was to suggest that there is a real wide range of such things. I'll think about this more as I re-read this section. --Matthew Faulconer 05:07, 10 Feb 2006 (UTC)

I used to wonder how come I have never seen an angel or had an awesome experience similar to the many experiences had by the prophet Joseph Smith or the many other wonderful leaders of the church. While I recognize the hand of God has not been hidden in my life, verse 32 helps me to better understand that I am blessed with the great opportunity to just live by faith.

Kempj's comments from 7 Dec 2005

Verses 36-39

Hi All, my exegesis is a bit wordy. Revisions are much appreciated. --Matthew Faulconer 10:59, 29 Apr 2005 (CEST)