Oct 07 edits
Thanks Rob for the edits! It looks better. --Matthew Faulconer 04:48, 24 Oct 2006 (UTC)
>How could Jesus suffer "more than man can suffer" (verse 7)?
In my reading King Benjamin is saying that Jesus suffered more than man can suffer without dying and so when he suffered in that way he died. Is that what others think is being said here? If so, not sure how, but I think this question should be modified.--Matthew Faulconer 07:48, 1 Jul 2005 (CEST)
- I agree that it is saying that that Jesus suffered more than man can without dying. However, I am not sure that his suffering in that way (by bleeding from every pore and atoning) caused his death. Being the Son of God he had power over death, in my mind not only to resurrect but also to put off death, and did not die until chose to. Am I missing a link or misreading your thoughts? MJ 13:40, 3 Jul 2005 (CEST)
- What you are saying makes sense. In support of that view, Jesus doesn't die at the time the verse seems to be referring to--when blood came from every pore. --Matthew Faulconer 16:20, 6 Jul 2005 (CEST)
>Why would it be important for the angel to name Christ's mother (verse 8)? Interesting question. Any ideas? Notice that the structure of the verse. Jesus shall be called [all these great things] and his mother shall be called Mary. One possibility is that there is a purposeful juxtaposition here to suggest God's condescension--the Son of God was born to humble circumstances not to Queen so-and-so. --Matthew Faulconer 07:57, 1 Jul 2005 (CEST)
- OK, maybe this is a little strange, but isn't one of the meanings of Miriam (the original Hebrew form of Mary) "bitter"? Could there be something in the meaning of the name that would make it so important that an angel would reveal it long before Christ's birth? Or was the angel just "fleshing out" the story? Really not sure what to make of all this. Rob Fergus 15:48, 4 Jul 2005 (CEST)