Talk:Mosiah 3:11-15

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What is early E material? (mentioned as one of the traditions from which the law of Moses came down in the last question) MJ 16:15, 27 Jun 2005 (CEST)

E is the Elohist source, thought by many to represent early traditions from the northern kingdom of Israel. Some discussion and a list of passages is here.

The reference seems a bit obtuse. Shouldn't it be clarified what E means within the question. Furthermore, I would think that the assumption of the documentary hypothesis is questionable. Having not heard of it before, the thought that the law of Moses was a later compilation struck me as a little bit too liberal/secular for my taste. (Tastes of "higher criticism".) Per wikipedia, it also seems to have lost its appeal to some of the academic community as well. Far from being the academic community, I think we are safe, for our purposes, to assume that Moses/God wrote the law of Moses and that it suffered later revisions. Perhaps we might take Moses to be R, which really would likely well describe his role, at least for Genesis and Exodus, but the documentary hypothesis postulates a post-law compiler who created the texts from disparate sources. (Though, perhaps we might postulate differently modified versions of Moses's original works.) In any case my ultimate point is that I would suggest making it clear what E means (perhaps my adding an external link to the wikipedia page) and rephrasing things a bit. I'll probably do so myself if there are no objections. --Seanmcox 18:28, 1 September 2007 (CEST)

Messiah & BOM comment[edit]

This is an interesting comment I've moved to here from the commentary page. But, I don't think it is exegesis. Maybe this is something that should be linked to on a user page? --Matthew Faulconer 09:12, 1 September 2007 (CEST)

  • Some scholars have suggested that the reforms of King Josiah led to a change in religious practice in Jerusalem in Lehi's day, with a greater emphasis being placed on the sacrifices and ceremonies of the Aaronic priests, and a denial of the coming Messiah. The message of the angel in this chapter, and the whole Book of Mormon, is that the Law of Moses of value only in as much as it emphasizes the mission of the Messiah. The view that all the prophets testified of Christ, and that the Law of Moses points towards Christ, was to a large extent removed from the Old Testament during and after the time of Lehi. This view became popular again in the Early Church after Christ's earthly ministry, but was largely lost again in the subsequent Great Apostacy. The Book of Mormon brings this understanding back to earth, and is a key teaching of the Restored Gospel.

Perhaps some revision to make a better connection with the text could save it. (Not that I'm in the mood to try to save it.) I think that that while the author may be correct, the comment doesn't enlarge much on what's in front of us. A better connection might allow it to do so though. --Seanmcox 18:16, 1 September 2007 (CEST)