Talk:1 Ne 17:48-55

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Rob, when you say "Nephi's use of physical force" are you referring to the fact that he shocks them in verse 54? --Matthew Faulconer 04:56, 26 Apr 2005 (CEST)

Rob, in D&C 121:37 it says that we are not to exercise dominion "in any degree of unrighteousness." With this qualification do you think that answers your question? --Matthew Faulconer 04:58, 26 Apr 2005 (CEST)

Yes, can you take the D&C reference to "control or dominion or compulsion" to include use of physical force? Just seems to be an incident that I can't completely understand in light of this later teaching.Rob Fergus
Rob, I also think compulsion includes physical force. But I think we cannot borrow those words and forget about the qualification the Lord gives in the same verse: "in any degree of unrighteousness." I think the Lord is saying that if we use physical force "in any degree of unrighteousness" then we loose our authority and priesthood. But what about physical force without any degree of unrighteousness? As I read it, that should be okay. Is that how you read it? --Matthew Faulconer 11:34, 29 Apr 2005 (CEST)