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Rob Fergus: /* Related links */ Pres Kimball on resurrection as an ordinance

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‎Related links: Pres Kimball on resurrection as an ordinance

Rob Fergus: /* Verse 12 */ change "clearly states" to "seems to state"

2008-05-28T15:29:58Z

‎Verse 12: change "clearly states" to "seems to state"

Rob Fergus: /* Questions */ resurrection is an ordinance

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‎Questions: resurrection is an ordinance

RobertC: /* Questions */ sealing power and knowledge??

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‎Questions: sealing power and knowledge??

Rob Fergus: /* Verse 12 */

2006-11-14T01:46:44Z

‎Verse 12

Rob Fergus: /* Verse 12 */ baptism for the dead came first

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‎Verse 12: baptism for the dead came first

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-[[Doctrine & Covenants]] > [[Doctrine & Covenants 128|Section 128]]
+[[Home]] > [[Doctrine & Covenants]] > [[D&C 128 |Section 128]] > [[D&C 128:6-18 | Verses 128:6-18]] <br>
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 == Discussion ==
 ===Verse 6===
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 * '''"Heart of the fathers."''' The earliest quotation of this scripture is in [[Mal 4:6|Malachi 4:6]]. There, as here, the word "heart" is singular. The scripture is also referred to in [[3 Ne 25:6|3 Nephi 25:6]], where "heart" is also singular: "the heart of the fathers." On the other hand, in [[Luke 1:17|Luke 1:17]] and [[D&C 27:9|D&C 27:9]], [[D&C 98:16|98:16]], and [[D&C 110:15|110:15]], the quotation is plural: "the hearts of the fathers."
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 ===Verse 12===
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 * If we understand the nature of that welding link, what might that say about our relations to our children and our parents? to our history? to our culture?
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 ''Resurrection is a Priesthood Ordinance''.  This was taught by President Brigham Young (Journal of Discourses, 15:137-139) and then reaffirmed by President Spencer W. Kimball in an [http://tinyurl.com/3o2yb7 April 1977 General Conference Talk].
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-== Lexical notes ==
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-* ''Click the edit link above and to the right to add lexical notes''
 ===Verse 12===
 This verse seems to state that "the ordinance of baptism for the dead" existed before the "ordinance of baptism by water" for the living, which was then later "instituted to form a relationship" with the previously existing baptism for the dead. This adds even more detail to [[D&C 128:5]], where we read that baptism for the dead was ordained before the foundations of the world.  As baptism symbolizes death and rebirth, baptism for the dead is an ordinance created to both makes possible and forshadows the resurrection of those who die without hearing the gospel.  According to the timeline given here, baptism for the living would have been instigated at a later date to allow the living to also receive this forshadowing.  Baptism for the living and the dead are not the only priesthood ordinances that serves as a physical foreshadowing of future events and blessings (cf. [[Alma 13:2]]).
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 ===Verse 15===
 This verse makes it clear that fathers and children cannot be saved without each other, and that this ordinance of baptism for the dead was instigated to allow children to save their fathers, and perhaps for fathers to also save their dead children.  The themes outlined in this section clearly relate baptism for the dead to other patriarchal priesthood practices outlined in [[Moses 6:1]]-5.
 == Related links ==
 ''Resurrection is a Priesthood Ordinance''.  This was taught by President Brigham Young (Journal of Discourses, 15:137-139) and then reaffirmed by President Spencer W. Kimball in an [http://tinyurl.com/3o2yb7 April 1977 General Conference Talk].
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−	* ''~~Click the edit link above and to the right to add related links~~''	+	''Resurrection is a Priesthood Ordinance''. This was taught by President Brigham Young (Journal of Discourses, 15:137-139) and then reaffirmed by President Spencer W. Kimball in an [http://tinyurl.com/3o2yb7 April 1977 General Conference Talk].

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 == Exegesis ==
 ===Verse 12===
-This verse clearly states that "the ordinance of baptism for the dead" existed before the "ordinance of baptism by water" for the living, which was then later "instituted to form a relationship" with the previously existing baptism for the dead. This adds even more detail to [[D&C 128:5]], where we read that baptism for the dead was ordained before the foundations of the world.  As baptism symbolizes death and rebirth, baptism for the dead is an ordinance created to both makes possible and forshadows the resurrection of those who die without hearing the gospel.  According to the timeline given here, baptism for the living would have been instigated at a later date to allow the living to also receive this forshadowing.  Baptism for the living and the dead are not the only priesthood ordinances that serves as a physical foreshadowing of future events and blessings (cf. [[Alma 13:2]]).
+This verse seems to state that "the ordinance of baptism for the dead" existed before the "ordinance of baptism by water" for the living, which was then later "instituted to form a relationship" with the previously existing baptism for the dead. This adds even more detail to [[D&C 128:5]], where we read that baptism for the dead was ordained before the foundations of the world.  As baptism symbolizes death and rebirth, baptism for the dead is an ordinance created to both makes possible and forshadows the resurrection of those who die without hearing the gospel.  According to the timeline given here, baptism for the living would have been instigated at a later date to allow the living to also receive this forshadowing.  Baptism for the living and the dead are not the only priesthood ordinances that serves as a physical foreshadowing of future events and blessings (cf. [[Alma 13:2]]).
 ===Verse 15===

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 == Questions ==
 ===Verse 12===
-* ''Form a relationship?''  What might the Lord mean when he says that the ordinance of baptism by water was instituted to "form a relationship" with the ordinance of baptism for the dead?  Does this indicate that baptism for the dead existed before baptism for the living?  Why might such a relationship have been desirable?
+* ''This ordinance?''  Two ordinances are mentioned at the beginning of this verse--baptism by water and resurrection (for more info on resurrection as a priesthood ordinance, see below).  Which of these ordinances is the one that was "instituted to form a relationship with the ordinance of baptism for the dead?
 ===Verse 14===

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