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User:Mjberkey

2011-06-24T19:31:57Z

128.187.97.2: /* Personal Profile */

==Personal Profile==
I'm a 22 year old BYU student from Richland, WA. I'm currently studying civil engineering. I've been married to Kim, another user here at the wiki, since August 2010. I used to post here back in 2007 before going on a mission to Perth, Australia. Now I'm excited to get back into it with the Alma 14 project!

Talk:Alma 14:11-15

2011-06-24T19:01:26Z

128.187.97.2: /* Elements Prefiguring Christ */

==Exegesis==
===Elements Prefiguring Christ===
I brought the following paragraph here because I have a question and a suggested revision.
:''Several elements in this narrative prefigure Christ's trial, execution, and resurrection in the New Testament Gospels. They include the chief judge "smote them with his hand upon their cheeks" (v14), being mocked by suggesting they use God's power to save themselves, being forced them to witness the suffering of others, and their period of grief and silence that lasts three days (v18) prior to their dramatic deliverance from the prison, symbolic of triumph over death.''

* My question is what moment you have in mind from Christ's atonement where he was forced to witness the suffering of others? Perhaps you mean in performing the atonement he saw our suffering, or that he was crucified with two thieves, or do you mean Peter cutting off Malchus' ear?
* Regarding their three days in prison (v18), v22-23 make it clear that they spent much more than three days in prison before being delivered. That being said, I do think their dramatic deliverance from prison is reminiscent of the resurrection.
--Mike Berkey 20:03, 24 June 2011 (CEST)

Talk:Alma 14:1-5

2011-06-22T17:35:31Z

128.187.97.2: /* Power Structures */

==Verse 5 exegesis==
==="the" before "judges"===

Joe I don't see the "full justification" in the link you mention, just the amazon page for Skousen's book. --Mjberkey 19:11, 22 June 2011 (CEST)

===Power Structures===

Kim, clearly you're right that there's a reaction to protect the established power structure, but I don't think that explains that the extreme vitriol. When Jesus threatened the Jewish and Roman power structures, they tried him privately and had him dead in less than a day, and they didn't really go after the rest of the disciples (until later in Acts). If this were only a matter of preserving power, I would think it would be enough to just knock off the head of the movement, that is, to put Alma and Amulek away privily. Instead the drive the men out of town and stone them, they make Alma and Amulek watch as they burn not only the women and children, but also their scriptures. In fact, for some reason they decide ''not'' to kill Alma and Amulek, but to keep them in prison, bound and naked, and torture them, trying to get them to renounce their preaching. It seems their accusations of about reviling against the law is just rationalization of actions that are really motivated by truly irrational hatred. It's this irrational hatred that interests me. What motivates it? --Mjberkey 19:11, 22 June 2011 (CEST)
:But then, in Mosiah 17:12 it's the accusation that Abinadi had reviled against the king that got Noah to change his mind from releasing Abinadi to burning him. In Helaman 8:2 the judges use the same accusation against Nephi to try to incite the people. So, I guess this is a serious accusation.