Talk:D&C 132:15-27

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Pass By the Angels[edit]

Brigham Young famously reported that the purpose fo the temple endowment was "to receive all those ordinances in the House of the Lord, which are necessary for you, after you have departed this life, to enable you to walk back to the presence of the Father, passing the angels who stand as sentinels, being enabled to give them the key words, the signs and tokens, pertaining to the Holy Priesthood, and gain your eternal exaltation in spite of earth and hell" (JD 2:31). While we often think of this as perhaps a literal passing of sentries at gaurded doors to the Celestial Kingdom, perhaps there is more to this statement than meets the eye. Perhaps it isn't so much that there are sentries that we have to satisfy with special "signs and tokens" in order to pass through their gaurded doors, perhaps the phrase "passing the angels" should be taken in the same way as the similar "pass by the angels" here in D&C 132:19--those who receive the "signs and tokens" of the endowment pass by the angels because they have received an ordinance or ordination to become more than mere angels. The ordained become gods by passing the station of angels to become "above all" with angels "subject unto them" (D&C 132:20). According to this view, the endowment described by Brigham Young, and the temple sealing as revealed here in this section, are perhaps a preliminary ordinations to godhood. Perhaps there are even different levels of exaltation implied by the various ordinances or ordinations entered into through these temple ceremonies.--Rob Fergus 14:36, 16 Nov 2006 (UTC)

Good stuff, doesn't follow no quoting rule[edit]

Recent work by an anonymous contributor in the exegesis section is interesting. It also happens to violate pretty strongly the rule against using quotes in the exegesis section which to date I've tried to enforce on this wiki. Because of this I'm going to move the information to the related links section. Rather than put it all in the related links section I will create a subpage and move most of it there. Hopefully this isn't interpretted as suggesting that the work is not good. That isn't the issue. Instead, the question is where work like this belongs. If anyone wishes to discuss, we can do so on this page. If someone would like to discuss the policy rule "Do not cite sources other than the scriptures in the questions and exegesis sections of the commentary pages," the best place would probably be the policy discussion page. Thanks, --Matthew Faulconer 06:39, 30 June 2008 (CEST)