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2 Ne 6:1-5

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Summary[edit]

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Scope. Second Nephi 6:6-7; 6:16-8:25 is Jacob quotation of Isaiah 49:22-52:2. This wiki page and its subpages are not intended, however, to address Isaiah. They are intended only to address Jacob's use of Isaiah. It is therefore suggested that readers consult the wiki pages that do address Isaiah 49:22-52:2 before viewing the pages that address Second Nephi 6-8. Contributors are likewise asked to respect this distinction. The idea is that a reader should be able to find content about an original passage from Isaiah on the wiki page addressing that passage. The wiki pages addressing Second Nephi 6-8 should focus on added insights that come from Nephi's use of Isaiah.

The relationship of Chapters 6-8 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

This section is for detailed discussion such as the meaning of a symbol, how a doctrinal point is developed throughout a passage, or insights that can be further developed in the future. Contributions may range from polished paragraphs down to a single bullet point. The focus, however, should always be on understanding the scriptural text consistent with LDS doctrine. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:9. The question of whether a sixth-century BC reference to crucifixion is anachronistic is answered by reference to Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which describes hanging a man from a tree as a form of capital punishment. The reader is also referred to The History of Crucifixion, which describes crucifixion of Athenian pirates a century before this Book of Mormon record, as well as a nearly-contemporaneous mass crucifixion of Darius I's political opponents in 519 BC.
  • 2 Ne 6:14. In the context of Hebraic culture, it is clear that the dust of one's feet represents the condemnation of the world (John 13:5, see also Matt 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5). Removing the dust from one's feet is akin to shaking the iniquities of the world from one's garments (2 Ne 9:44). In 2 Nephi 6, Jacob declares that Gentile kings and queens who bear up Israel will "lick up the dust of [the House of Israel's] feet" (2 Ne 6:7) and that the Gentiles who fight against Zion will do the same (2 Ne 6:13). One possible interpretation of these verses is that the Lord will use both Israel's allies and her enemies to cleanse her from the stains of the world. In affliction as well as in triumph, Israel will be lifted out of Babylon.

Unanswered questions[edit]

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Prompts for life application[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 6:13. Here it says that the people of the Lord will not be ashamed. How wonderful will it be to stand in the presence of God with confidence?

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • Has Jacob used the chapters from Isaiah the way we might expect him to use them? We take them to be prophecies of Christ’s coming. How does he use them?
  • 2 Ne 6:2: What is the difference between being ordained and being consecrated? (Or is there a difference?) Why does Jacob remind them that he was consecrated by Nephi when he tells them of his priesthood calling? Was Nephi their king or not? 2 Ne 5:18 says that Nephi didn’t want to be their king, but indicates that he might have been anyway? though 2 Ne 5:19 suggests that he was something other than a king. If Nephi wasn’t their king, why does Jacob speak of Nephi in this way? How could the Nephites depend on one person, Nephi, for safety? What does it mean to say that he was their protector?
  • 2 Ne 6:4-5. Jacob says he is going to read them the words of Isaiah for they are meant for the house of Israel. What are the different senses of the phrase “house of Israel"? In what ways do they apply to each of the meanings of the phrase? In what ways might these words apply to us? In what ways do they apply to a narrower sense of “the house of Israel"?
  • 2 Ne 6:8-18. Compare what is in these verses to verses 6-7. Is this a question, a comment, or homework?
  • 2 Ne 6:12. What is the content of these covenants? What have the Gentiles been promised? This is homework.
  • 2 Ne 6:13. Jacob is interpreting the quotation from Isaiah in verse 7. What does Jacob mean in this verse? Who is licking the dust of whose feet?
  • 2 Ne 6:16-18. Jacob takes up his quotation from Isaiah again, taking up where he left off. (See Isa 49:24ff.) Notice that Jacob shifts back into quoting Isaiah without saying anything about the fact that he is doing so. Why not? Does that tell us anything about the office of a prophet?
  • 2 Ne 8: Isaiah 51. How would this speech, a speech from Isaiah 51 of consolation to Israel, be an appropriate thing for Jacob to repeat to the Nephites?
  • Jacob begins quoting Isaiah at Isa 49:22. The theme of Isa 49 is the redemption of Israel from captivity, and we understand the chapters from which Jacob reads (49-52) to be prophecies of the Messiah. Why does Jacob begin where he does rather than earlier? When the Lord says he will lift up his hand to the Gentiles (v. 6), what does he mean? What is the significance of lifting up the hand? What does “set up my standard” mean? As it is used here, a standard is a flag. Of what is it a symbol here? What does the Lord mean when he says he will set up his standard to the people? What service is it that the Gentiles will perform for Israel (v. 7)? What is the Lord promising the house of Israel?
  • vv. 51:4-6: These verses may help us understand 2 Ne 7:10-11 better: The Lord will give light to the earth by giving divine guidance, instruction, and salvation rather than that offered by the world. How do we distinguish between the two sources of light?
  • v. 52:1: Notice that the first part of this verse is a repetition of the first part of v. 9. Who was speaking there? Who is speaking here? The prophet? The Lord? Israel?

Resources[edit]

This section is for listing links and print resources, including those that are also cited elsewhere on this page. A short comment about the particular strengths of a resource can be helpful. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • See this post buy Jacob J. at the New Cool Thang blog for parallels between vv. 6:9-11 and 2 Ne 10:3-8.

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 6:6-10

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Summary[edit]

This heading should be very brief. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Scope. Second Nephi 6:6-7; 6:16-8:25 is Jacob quotation of Isaiah 49:22-52:2. This wiki page and its subpages are not intended, however, to address Isaiah. They are intended only to address Jacob's use of Isaiah. It is therefore suggested that readers consult the wiki pages that do address Isaiah 49:22-52:2 before viewing the pages that address Second Nephi 6-8. Contributors are likewise asked to respect this distinction. The idea is that a reader should be able to find content about an original passage from Isaiah on the wiki page addressing that passage. The wiki pages addressing Second Nephi 6-8 should focus on added insights that come from Nephi's use of Isaiah.

The relationship of Chapters 6-8 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

This section is for detailed discussion such as the meaning of a symbol, how a doctrinal point is developed throughout a passage, or insights that can be further developed in the future. Contributions may range from polished paragraphs down to a single bullet point. The focus, however, should always be on understanding the scriptural text consistent with LDS doctrine. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:9. The question of whether a sixth-century BC reference to crucifixion is anachronistic is answered by reference to Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which describes hanging a man from a tree as a form of capital punishment. The reader is also referred to The History of Crucifixion, which describes crucifixion of Athenian pirates a century before this Book of Mormon record, as well as a nearly-contemporaneous mass crucifixion of Darius I's political opponents in 519 BC.
  • 2 Ne 6:14. In the context of Hebraic culture, it is clear that the dust of one's feet represents the condemnation of the world (John 13:5, see also Matt 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5). Removing the dust from one's feet is akin to shaking the iniquities of the world from one's garments (2 Ne 9:44). In 2 Nephi 6, Jacob declares that Gentile kings and queens who bear up Israel will "lick up the dust of [the House of Israel's] feet" (2 Ne 6:7) and that the Gentiles who fight against Zion will do the same (2 Ne 6:13). One possible interpretation of these verses is that the Lord will use both Israel's allies and her enemies to cleanse her from the stains of the world. In affliction as well as in triumph, Israel will be lifted out of Babylon.

Unanswered questions[edit]

This section is for questions along the lines of "I still don't understand ..." Please do not be shy. The point of these questions is to identify things that still need to be addressed on this page. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for life application[edit]

This section is for prompts that suggest ways in which a passage can influence a person's life. Prompts may be appropriate either for private self reflection or for a class discussion. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:13. Here it says that the people of the Lord will not be ashamed. How wonderful will it be to stand in the presence of God with confidence?

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • Has Jacob used the chapters from Isaiah the way we might expect him to use them? We take them to be prophecies of Christ’s coming. How does he use them?
  • 2 Ne 6:2: What is the difference between being ordained and being consecrated? (Or is there a difference?) Why does Jacob remind them that he was consecrated by Nephi when he tells them of his priesthood calling? Was Nephi their king or not? 2 Ne 5:18 says that Nephi didn’t want to be their king, but indicates that he might have been anyway? though 2 Ne 5:19 suggests that he was something other than a king. If Nephi wasn’t their king, why does Jacob speak of Nephi in this way? How could the Nephites depend on one person, Nephi, for safety? What does it mean to say that he was their protector?
  • 2 Ne 6:4-5. Jacob says he is going to read them the words of Isaiah for they are meant for the house of Israel. What are the different senses of the phrase “house of Israel"? In what ways do they apply to each of the meanings of the phrase? In what ways might these words apply to us? In what ways do they apply to a narrower sense of “the house of Israel"?
  • 2 Ne 6:8-18. Compare what is in these verses to verses 6-7. Is this a question, a comment, or homework?
  • 2 Ne 6:12. What is the content of these covenants? What have the Gentiles been promised? This is homework.
  • 2 Ne 6:13. Jacob is interpreting the quotation from Isaiah in verse 7. What does Jacob mean in this verse? Who is licking the dust of whose feet?
  • 2 Ne 6:16-18. Jacob takes up his quotation from Isaiah again, taking up where he left off. (See Isa 49:24ff.) Notice that Jacob shifts back into quoting Isaiah without saying anything about the fact that he is doing so. Why not? Does that tell us anything about the office of a prophet?
  • 2 Ne 8: Isaiah 51. How would this speech, a speech from Isaiah 51 of consolation to Israel, be an appropriate thing for Jacob to repeat to the Nephites?
  • Jacob begins quoting Isaiah at Isa 49:22. The theme of Isa 49 is the redemption of Israel from captivity, and we understand the chapters from which Jacob reads (49-52) to be prophecies of the Messiah. Why does Jacob begin where he does rather than earlier? When the Lord says he will lift up his hand to the Gentiles (v. 6), what does he mean? What is the significance of lifting up the hand? What does “set up my standard” mean? As it is used here, a standard is a flag. Of what is it a symbol here? What does the Lord mean when he says he will set up his standard to the people? What service is it that the Gentiles will perform for Israel (v. 7)? What is the Lord promising the house of Israel?
  • vv. 51:4-6: These verses may help us understand 2 Ne 7:10-11 better: The Lord will give light to the earth by giving divine guidance, instruction, and salvation rather than that offered by the world. How do we distinguish between the two sources of light?
  • v. 52:1: Notice that the first part of this verse is a repetition of the first part of v. 9. Who was speaking there? Who is speaking here? The prophet? The Lord? Israel?

Resources[edit]

This section is for listing links and print resources, including those that are also cited elsewhere on this page. A short comment about the particular strengths of a resource can be helpful. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • See this post buy Jacob J. at the New Cool Thang blog for parallels between vv. 6:9-11 and 2 Ne 10:3-8.

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 6:11-15

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Summary[edit]

This heading should be very brief. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Scope. Second Nephi 6:6-7; 6:16-8:25 is Jacob quotation of Isaiah 49:22-52:2. This wiki page and its subpages are not intended, however, to address Isaiah. They are intended only to address Jacob's use of Isaiah. It is therefore suggested that readers consult the wiki pages that do address Isaiah 49:22-52:2 before viewing the pages that address Second Nephi 6-8. Contributors are likewise asked to respect this distinction. The idea is that a reader should be able to find content about an original passage from Isaiah on the wiki page addressing that passage. The wiki pages addressing Second Nephi 6-8 should focus on added insights that come from Nephi's use of Isaiah.

The relationship of Chapters 6-8 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

This section is for detailed discussion such as the meaning of a symbol, how a doctrinal point is developed throughout a passage, or insights that can be further developed in the future. Contributions may range from polished paragraphs down to a single bullet point. The focus, however, should always be on understanding the scriptural text consistent with LDS doctrine. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:9. The question of whether a sixth-century BC reference to crucifixion is anachronistic is answered by reference to Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which describes hanging a man from a tree as a form of capital punishment. The reader is also referred to The History of Crucifixion, which describes crucifixion of Athenian pirates a century before this Book of Mormon record, as well as a nearly-contemporaneous mass crucifixion of Darius I's political opponents in 519 BC.
  • 2 Ne 6:14. In the context of Hebraic culture, it is clear that the dust of one's feet represents the condemnation of the world (John 13:5, see also Matt 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5). Removing the dust from one's feet is akin to shaking the iniquities of the world from one's garments (2 Ne 9:44). In 2 Nephi 6, Jacob declares that Gentile kings and queens who bear up Israel will "lick up the dust of [the House of Israel's] feet" (2 Ne 6:7) and that the Gentiles who fight against Zion will do the same (2 Ne 6:13). One possible interpretation of these verses is that the Lord will use both Israel's allies and her enemies to cleanse her from the stains of the world. In affliction as well as in triumph, Israel will be lifted out of Babylon.

Unanswered questions[edit]

This section is for questions along the lines of "I still don't understand ..." Please do not be shy. The point of these questions is to identify things that still need to be addressed on this page. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for life application[edit]

This section is for prompts that suggest ways in which a passage can influence a person's life. Prompts may be appropriate either for private self reflection or for a class discussion. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:13. Here it says that the people of the Lord will not be ashamed. How wonderful will it be to stand in the presence of God with confidence?

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • Has Jacob used the chapters from Isaiah the way we might expect him to use them? We take them to be prophecies of Christ’s coming. How does he use them?
  • 2 Ne 6:2: What is the difference between being ordained and being consecrated? (Or is there a difference?) Why does Jacob remind them that he was consecrated by Nephi when he tells them of his priesthood calling? Was Nephi their king or not? 2 Ne 5:18 says that Nephi didn’t want to be their king, but indicates that he might have been anyway? though 2 Ne 5:19 suggests that he was something other than a king. If Nephi wasn’t their king, why does Jacob speak of Nephi in this way? How could the Nephites depend on one person, Nephi, for safety? What does it mean to say that he was their protector?
  • 2 Ne 6:4-5. Jacob says he is going to read them the words of Isaiah for they are meant for the house of Israel. What are the different senses of the phrase “house of Israel"? In what ways do they apply to each of the meanings of the phrase? In what ways might these words apply to us? In what ways do they apply to a narrower sense of “the house of Israel"?
  • 2 Ne 6:8-18. Compare what is in these verses to verses 6-7. Is this a question, a comment, or homework?
  • 2 Ne 6:12. What is the content of these covenants? What have the Gentiles been promised? This is homework.
  • 2 Ne 6:13. Jacob is interpreting the quotation from Isaiah in verse 7. What does Jacob mean in this verse? Who is licking the dust of whose feet?
  • 2 Ne 6:16-18. Jacob takes up his quotation from Isaiah again, taking up where he left off. (See Isa 49:24ff.) Notice that Jacob shifts back into quoting Isaiah without saying anything about the fact that he is doing so. Why not? Does that tell us anything about the office of a prophet?
  • 2 Ne 8: Isaiah 51. How would this speech, a speech from Isaiah 51 of consolation to Israel, be an appropriate thing for Jacob to repeat to the Nephites?
  • Jacob begins quoting Isaiah at Isa 49:22. The theme of Isa 49 is the redemption of Israel from captivity, and we understand the chapters from which Jacob reads (49-52) to be prophecies of the Messiah. Why does Jacob begin where he does rather than earlier? When the Lord says he will lift up his hand to the Gentiles (v. 6), what does he mean? What is the significance of lifting up the hand? What does “set up my standard” mean? As it is used here, a standard is a flag. Of what is it a symbol here? What does the Lord mean when he says he will set up his standard to the people? What service is it that the Gentiles will perform for Israel (v. 7)? What is the Lord promising the house of Israel?
  • vv. 51:4-6: These verses may help us understand 2 Ne 7:10-11 better: The Lord will give light to the earth by giving divine guidance, instruction, and salvation rather than that offered by the world. How do we distinguish between the two sources of light?
  • v. 52:1: Notice that the first part of this verse is a repetition of the first part of v. 9. Who was speaking there? Who is speaking here? The prophet? The Lord? Israel?

Resources[edit]

This section is for listing links and print resources, including those that are also cited elsewhere on this page. A short comment about the particular strengths of a resource can be helpful. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • See this post buy Jacob J. at the New Cool Thang blog for parallels between vv. 6:9-11 and 2 Ne 10:3-8.

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 6:16-18

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Summary[edit]

This heading should be very brief. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Scope. Second Nephi 6:6-7; 6:16-8:25 is Jacob quotation of Isaiah 49:22-52:2. This wiki page and its subpages are not intended, however, to address Isaiah. They are intended only to address Jacob's use of Isaiah. It is therefore suggested that readers consult the wiki pages that do address Isaiah 49:22-52:2 before viewing the pages that address Second Nephi 6-8. Contributors are likewise asked to respect this distinction. The idea is that a reader should be able to find content about an original passage from Isaiah on the wiki page addressing that passage. The wiki pages addressing Second Nephi 6-8 should focus on added insights that come from Nephi's use of Isaiah.

The relationship of Chapters 6-8 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

This section is for detailed discussion such as the meaning of a symbol, how a doctrinal point is developed throughout a passage, or insights that can be further developed in the future. Contributions may range from polished paragraphs down to a single bullet point. The focus, however, should always be on understanding the scriptural text consistent with LDS doctrine. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:9. The question of whether a sixth-century BC reference to crucifixion is anachronistic is answered by reference to Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which describes hanging a man from a tree as a form of capital punishment. The reader is also referred to The History of Crucifixion, which describes crucifixion of Athenian pirates a century before this Book of Mormon record, as well as a nearly-contemporaneous mass crucifixion of Darius I's political opponents in 519 BC.
  • 2 Ne 6:14. In the context of Hebraic culture, it is clear that the dust of one's feet represents the condemnation of the world (John 13:5, see also Matt 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5). Removing the dust from one's feet is akin to shaking the iniquities of the world from one's garments (2 Ne 9:44). In 2 Nephi 6, Jacob declares that Gentile kings and queens who bear up Israel will "lick up the dust of [the House of Israel's] feet" (2 Ne 6:7) and that the Gentiles who fight against Zion will do the same (2 Ne 6:13). One possible interpretation of these verses is that the Lord will use both Israel's allies and her enemies to cleanse her from the stains of the world. In affliction as well as in triumph, Israel will be lifted out of Babylon.

Unanswered questions[edit]

This section is for questions along the lines of "I still don't understand ..." Please do not be shy. The point of these questions is to identify things that still need to be addressed on this page. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for life application[edit]

This section is for prompts that suggest ways in which a passage can influence a person's life. Prompts may be appropriate either for private self reflection or for a class discussion. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:13. Here it says that the people of the Lord will not be ashamed. How wonderful will it be to stand in the presence of God with confidence?

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • Has Jacob used the chapters from Isaiah the way we might expect him to use them? We take them to be prophecies of Christ’s coming. How does he use them?
  • 2 Ne 6:2: What is the difference between being ordained and being consecrated? (Or is there a difference?) Why does Jacob remind them that he was consecrated by Nephi when he tells them of his priesthood calling? Was Nephi their king or not? 2 Ne 5:18 says that Nephi didn’t want to be their king, but indicates that he might have been anyway? though 2 Ne 5:19 suggests that he was something other than a king. If Nephi wasn’t their king, why does Jacob speak of Nephi in this way? How could the Nephites depend on one person, Nephi, for safety? What does it mean to say that he was their protector?
  • 2 Ne 6:4-5. Jacob says he is going to read them the words of Isaiah for they are meant for the house of Israel. What are the different senses of the phrase “house of Israel"? In what ways do they apply to each of the meanings of the phrase? In what ways might these words apply to us? In what ways do they apply to a narrower sense of “the house of Israel"?
  • 2 Ne 6:8-18. Compare what is in these verses to verses 6-7. Is this a question, a comment, or homework?
  • 2 Ne 6:12. What is the content of these covenants? What have the Gentiles been promised? This is homework.
  • 2 Ne 6:13. Jacob is interpreting the quotation from Isaiah in verse 7. What does Jacob mean in this verse? Who is licking the dust of whose feet?
  • 2 Ne 6:16-18. Jacob takes up his quotation from Isaiah again, taking up where he left off. (See Isa 49:24ff.) Notice that Jacob shifts back into quoting Isaiah without saying anything about the fact that he is doing so. Why not? Does that tell us anything about the office of a prophet?
  • 2 Ne 8: Isaiah 51. How would this speech, a speech from Isaiah 51 of consolation to Israel, be an appropriate thing for Jacob to repeat to the Nephites?
  • Jacob begins quoting Isaiah at Isa 49:22. The theme of Isa 49 is the redemption of Israel from captivity, and we understand the chapters from which Jacob reads (49-52) to be prophecies of the Messiah. Why does Jacob begin where he does rather than earlier? When the Lord says he will lift up his hand to the Gentiles (v. 6), what does he mean? What is the significance of lifting up the hand? What does “set up my standard” mean? As it is used here, a standard is a flag. Of what is it a symbol here? What does the Lord mean when he says he will set up his standard to the people? What service is it that the Gentiles will perform for Israel (v. 7)? What is the Lord promising the house of Israel?
  • vv. 51:4-6: These verses may help us understand 2 Ne 7:10-11 better: The Lord will give light to the earth by giving divine guidance, instruction, and salvation rather than that offered by the world. How do we distinguish between the two sources of light?
  • v. 52:1: Notice that the first part of this verse is a repetition of the first part of v. 9. Who was speaking there? Who is speaking here? The prophet? The Lord? Israel?

Resources[edit]

This section is for listing links and print resources, including those that are also cited elsewhere on this page. A short comment about the particular strengths of a resource can be helpful. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • See this post buy Jacob J. at the New Cool Thang blog for parallels between vv. 6:9-11 and 2 Ne 10:3-8.

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 7:1-5

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Summary[edit]

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Scope. Second Nephi 6:6-7; 6:16-8:25 is Jacob quotation of Isaiah 49:22-52:2. This wiki page and its subpages are not intended, however, to address Isaiah. They are intended only to address Jacob's use of Isaiah. It is therefore suggested that readers consult the wiki pages that do address Isaiah 49:22-52:2 before viewing the pages that address Second Nephi 6-8. Contributors are likewise asked to respect this distinction. The idea is that a reader should be able to find content about an original passage from Isaiah on the wiki page addressing that passage. The wiki pages addressing Second Nephi 6-8 should focus on added insights that come from Nephi's use of Isaiah.

The relationship of Chapters 6-8 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

This section is for detailed discussion such as the meaning of a symbol, how a doctrinal point is developed throughout a passage, or insights that can be further developed in the future. Contributions may range from polished paragraphs down to a single bullet point. The focus, however, should always be on understanding the scriptural text consistent with LDS doctrine. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:9. The question of whether a sixth-century BC reference to crucifixion is anachronistic is answered by reference to Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which describes hanging a man from a tree as a form of capital punishment. The reader is also referred to The History of Crucifixion, which describes crucifixion of Athenian pirates a century before this Book of Mormon record, as well as a nearly-contemporaneous mass crucifixion of Darius I's political opponents in 519 BC.
  • 2 Ne 6:14. In the context of Hebraic culture, it is clear that the dust of one's feet represents the condemnation of the world (John 13:5, see also Matt 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5). Removing the dust from one's feet is akin to shaking the iniquities of the world from one's garments (2 Ne 9:44). In 2 Nephi 6, Jacob declares that Gentile kings and queens who bear up Israel will "lick up the dust of [the House of Israel's] feet" (2 Ne 6:7) and that the Gentiles who fight against Zion will do the same (2 Ne 6:13). One possible interpretation of these verses is that the Lord will use both Israel's allies and her enemies to cleanse her from the stains of the world. In affliction as well as in triumph, Israel will be lifted out of Babylon.

Unanswered questions[edit]

This section is for questions along the lines of "I still don't understand ..." Please do not be shy. The point of these questions is to identify things that still need to be addressed on this page. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for life application[edit]

This section is for prompts that suggest ways in which a passage can influence a person's life. Prompts may be appropriate either for private self reflection or for a class discussion. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:13. Here it says that the people of the Lord will not be ashamed. How wonderful will it be to stand in the presence of God with confidence?

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • Has Jacob used the chapters from Isaiah the way we might expect him to use them? We take them to be prophecies of Christ’s coming. How does he use them?
  • 2 Ne 6:2: What is the difference between being ordained and being consecrated? (Or is there a difference?) Why does Jacob remind them that he was consecrated by Nephi when he tells them of his priesthood calling? Was Nephi their king or not? 2 Ne 5:18 says that Nephi didn’t want to be their king, but indicates that he might have been anyway? though 2 Ne 5:19 suggests that he was something other than a king. If Nephi wasn’t their king, why does Jacob speak of Nephi in this way? How could the Nephites depend on one person, Nephi, for safety? What does it mean to say that he was their protector?
  • 2 Ne 6:4-5. Jacob says he is going to read them the words of Isaiah for they are meant for the house of Israel. What are the different senses of the phrase “house of Israel"? In what ways do they apply to each of the meanings of the phrase? In what ways might these words apply to us? In what ways do they apply to a narrower sense of “the house of Israel"?
  • 2 Ne 6:8-18. Compare what is in these verses to verses 6-7. Is this a question, a comment, or homework?
  • 2 Ne 6:12. What is the content of these covenants? What have the Gentiles been promised? This is homework.
  • 2 Ne 6:13. Jacob is interpreting the quotation from Isaiah in verse 7. What does Jacob mean in this verse? Who is licking the dust of whose feet?
  • 2 Ne 6:16-18. Jacob takes up his quotation from Isaiah again, taking up where he left off. (See Isa 49:24ff.) Notice that Jacob shifts back into quoting Isaiah without saying anything about the fact that he is doing so. Why not? Does that tell us anything about the office of a prophet?
  • 2 Ne 8: Isaiah 51. How would this speech, a speech from Isaiah 51 of consolation to Israel, be an appropriate thing for Jacob to repeat to the Nephites?
  • Jacob begins quoting Isaiah at Isa 49:22. The theme of Isa 49 is the redemption of Israel from captivity, and we understand the chapters from which Jacob reads (49-52) to be prophecies of the Messiah. Why does Jacob begin where he does rather than earlier? When the Lord says he will lift up his hand to the Gentiles (v. 6), what does he mean? What is the significance of lifting up the hand? What does “set up my standard” mean? As it is used here, a standard is a flag. Of what is it a symbol here? What does the Lord mean when he says he will set up his standard to the people? What service is it that the Gentiles will perform for Israel (v. 7)? What is the Lord promising the house of Israel?
  • vv. 51:4-6: These verses may help us understand 2 Ne 7:10-11 better: The Lord will give light to the earth by giving divine guidance, instruction, and salvation rather than that offered by the world. How do we distinguish between the two sources of light?
  • v. 52:1: Notice that the first part of this verse is a repetition of the first part of v. 9. Who was speaking there? Who is speaking here? The prophet? The Lord? Israel?

Resources[edit]

This section is for listing links and print resources, including those that are also cited elsewhere on this page. A short comment about the particular strengths of a resource can be helpful. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • See this post buy Jacob J. at the New Cool Thang blog for parallels between vv. 6:9-11 and 2 Ne 10:3-8.

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 7:6-11

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Summary[edit]

This heading should be very brief. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Scope. Second Nephi 6:6-7; 6:16-8:25 is Jacob quotation of Isaiah 49:22-52:2. This wiki page and its subpages are not intended, however, to address Isaiah. They are intended only to address Jacob's use of Isaiah. It is therefore suggested that readers consult the wiki pages that do address Isaiah 49:22-52:2 before viewing the pages that address Second Nephi 6-8. Contributors are likewise asked to respect this distinction. The idea is that a reader should be able to find content about an original passage from Isaiah on the wiki page addressing that passage. The wiki pages addressing Second Nephi 6-8 should focus on added insights that come from Nephi's use of Isaiah.

The relationship of Chapters 6-8 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

This section is for detailed discussion such as the meaning of a symbol, how a doctrinal point is developed throughout a passage, or insights that can be further developed in the future. Contributions may range from polished paragraphs down to a single bullet point. The focus, however, should always be on understanding the scriptural text consistent with LDS doctrine. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:9. The question of whether a sixth-century BC reference to crucifixion is anachronistic is answered by reference to Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which describes hanging a man from a tree as a form of capital punishment. The reader is also referred to The History of Crucifixion, which describes crucifixion of Athenian pirates a century before this Book of Mormon record, as well as a nearly-contemporaneous mass crucifixion of Darius I's political opponents in 519 BC.
  • 2 Ne 6:14. In the context of Hebraic culture, it is clear that the dust of one's feet represents the condemnation of the world (John 13:5, see also Matt 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5). Removing the dust from one's feet is akin to shaking the iniquities of the world from one's garments (2 Ne 9:44). In 2 Nephi 6, Jacob declares that Gentile kings and queens who bear up Israel will "lick up the dust of [the House of Israel's] feet" (2 Ne 6:7) and that the Gentiles who fight against Zion will do the same (2 Ne 6:13). One possible interpretation of these verses is that the Lord will use both Israel's allies and her enemies to cleanse her from the stains of the world. In affliction as well as in triumph, Israel will be lifted out of Babylon.

Unanswered questions[edit]

This section is for questions along the lines of "I still don't understand ..." Please do not be shy. The point of these questions is to identify things that still need to be addressed on this page. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for life application[edit]

This section is for prompts that suggest ways in which a passage can influence a person's life. Prompts may be appropriate either for private self reflection or for a class discussion. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:13. Here it says that the people of the Lord will not be ashamed. How wonderful will it be to stand in the presence of God with confidence?

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • Has Jacob used the chapters from Isaiah the way we might expect him to use them? We take them to be prophecies of Christ’s coming. How does he use them?
  • 2 Ne 6:2: What is the difference between being ordained and being consecrated? (Or is there a difference?) Why does Jacob remind them that he was consecrated by Nephi when he tells them of his priesthood calling? Was Nephi their king or not? 2 Ne 5:18 says that Nephi didn’t want to be their king, but indicates that he might have been anyway? though 2 Ne 5:19 suggests that he was something other than a king. If Nephi wasn’t their king, why does Jacob speak of Nephi in this way? How could the Nephites depend on one person, Nephi, for safety? What does it mean to say that he was their protector?
  • 2 Ne 6:4-5. Jacob says he is going to read them the words of Isaiah for they are meant for the house of Israel. What are the different senses of the phrase “house of Israel"? In what ways do they apply to each of the meanings of the phrase? In what ways might these words apply to us? In what ways do they apply to a narrower sense of “the house of Israel"?
  • 2 Ne 6:8-18. Compare what is in these verses to verses 6-7. Is this a question, a comment, or homework?
  • 2 Ne 6:12. What is the content of these covenants? What have the Gentiles been promised? This is homework.
  • 2 Ne 6:13. Jacob is interpreting the quotation from Isaiah in verse 7. What does Jacob mean in this verse? Who is licking the dust of whose feet?
  • 2 Ne 6:16-18. Jacob takes up his quotation from Isaiah again, taking up where he left off. (See Isa 49:24ff.) Notice that Jacob shifts back into quoting Isaiah without saying anything about the fact that he is doing so. Why not? Does that tell us anything about the office of a prophet?
  • 2 Ne 8: Isaiah 51. How would this speech, a speech from Isaiah 51 of consolation to Israel, be an appropriate thing for Jacob to repeat to the Nephites?
  • Jacob begins quoting Isaiah at Isa 49:22. The theme of Isa 49 is the redemption of Israel from captivity, and we understand the chapters from which Jacob reads (49-52) to be prophecies of the Messiah. Why does Jacob begin where he does rather than earlier? When the Lord says he will lift up his hand to the Gentiles (v. 6), what does he mean? What is the significance of lifting up the hand? What does “set up my standard” mean? As it is used here, a standard is a flag. Of what is it a symbol here? What does the Lord mean when he says he will set up his standard to the people? What service is it that the Gentiles will perform for Israel (v. 7)? What is the Lord promising the house of Israel?
  • vv. 51:4-6: These verses may help us understand 2 Ne 7:10-11 better: The Lord will give light to the earth by giving divine guidance, instruction, and salvation rather than that offered by the world. How do we distinguish between the two sources of light?
  • v. 52:1: Notice that the first part of this verse is a repetition of the first part of v. 9. Who was speaking there? Who is speaking here? The prophet? The Lord? Israel?

Resources[edit]

This section is for listing links and print resources, including those that are also cited elsewhere on this page. A short comment about the particular strengths of a resource can be helpful. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • See this post buy Jacob J. at the New Cool Thang blog for parallels between vv. 6:9-11 and 2 Ne 10:3-8.

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 8:1-5

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Summary[edit]

This heading should be very brief. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Scope. Second Nephi 6:6-7; 6:16-8:25 is Jacob quotation of Isaiah 49:22-52:2. This wiki page and its subpages are not intended, however, to address Isaiah. They are intended only to address Jacob's use of Isaiah. It is therefore suggested that readers consult the wiki pages that do address Isaiah 49:22-52:2 before viewing the pages that address Second Nephi 6-8. Contributors are likewise asked to respect this distinction. The idea is that a reader should be able to find content about an original passage from Isaiah on the wiki page addressing that passage. The wiki pages addressing Second Nephi 6-8 should focus on added insights that come from Nephi's use of Isaiah.

The relationship of Chapters 6-8 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

This section is for detailed discussion such as the meaning of a symbol, how a doctrinal point is developed throughout a passage, or insights that can be further developed in the future. Contributions may range from polished paragraphs down to a single bullet point. The focus, however, should always be on understanding the scriptural text consistent with LDS doctrine. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:9. The question of whether a sixth-century BC reference to crucifixion is anachronistic is answered by reference to Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which describes hanging a man from a tree as a form of capital punishment. The reader is also referred to The History of Crucifixion, which describes crucifixion of Athenian pirates a century before this Book of Mormon record, as well as a nearly-contemporaneous mass crucifixion of Darius I's political opponents in 519 BC.
  • 2 Ne 6:14. In the context of Hebraic culture, it is clear that the dust of one's feet represents the condemnation of the world (John 13:5, see also Matt 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5). Removing the dust from one's feet is akin to shaking the iniquities of the world from one's garments (2 Ne 9:44). In 2 Nephi 6, Jacob declares that Gentile kings and queens who bear up Israel will "lick up the dust of [the House of Israel's] feet" (2 Ne 6:7) and that the Gentiles who fight against Zion will do the same (2 Ne 6:13). One possible interpretation of these verses is that the Lord will use both Israel's allies and her enemies to cleanse her from the stains of the world. In affliction as well as in triumph, Israel will be lifted out of Babylon.

Unanswered questions[edit]

This section is for questions along the lines of "I still don't understand ..." Please do not be shy. The point of these questions is to identify things that still need to be addressed on this page. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for life application[edit]

This section is for prompts that suggest ways in which a passage can influence a person's life. Prompts may be appropriate either for private self reflection or for a class discussion. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:13. Here it says that the people of the Lord will not be ashamed. How wonderful will it be to stand in the presence of God with confidence?

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • Has Jacob used the chapters from Isaiah the way we might expect him to use them? We take them to be prophecies of Christ’s coming. How does he use them?
  • 2 Ne 6:2: What is the difference between being ordained and being consecrated? (Or is there a difference?) Why does Jacob remind them that he was consecrated by Nephi when he tells them of his priesthood calling? Was Nephi their king or not? 2 Ne 5:18 says that Nephi didn’t want to be their king, but indicates that he might have been anyway? though 2 Ne 5:19 suggests that he was something other than a king. If Nephi wasn’t their king, why does Jacob speak of Nephi in this way? How could the Nephites depend on one person, Nephi, for safety? What does it mean to say that he was their protector?
  • 2 Ne 6:4-5. Jacob says he is going to read them the words of Isaiah for they are meant for the house of Israel. What are the different senses of the phrase “house of Israel"? In what ways do they apply to each of the meanings of the phrase? In what ways might these words apply to us? In what ways do they apply to a narrower sense of “the house of Israel"?
  • 2 Ne 6:8-18. Compare what is in these verses to verses 6-7. Is this a question, a comment, or homework?
  • 2 Ne 6:12. What is the content of these covenants? What have the Gentiles been promised? This is homework.
  • 2 Ne 6:13. Jacob is interpreting the quotation from Isaiah in verse 7. What does Jacob mean in this verse? Who is licking the dust of whose feet?
  • 2 Ne 6:16-18. Jacob takes up his quotation from Isaiah again, taking up where he left off. (See Isa 49:24ff.) Notice that Jacob shifts back into quoting Isaiah without saying anything about the fact that he is doing so. Why not? Does that tell us anything about the office of a prophet?
  • 2 Ne 8: Isaiah 51. How would this speech, a speech from Isaiah 51 of consolation to Israel, be an appropriate thing for Jacob to repeat to the Nephites?
  • Jacob begins quoting Isaiah at Isa 49:22. The theme of Isa 49 is the redemption of Israel from captivity, and we understand the chapters from which Jacob reads (49-52) to be prophecies of the Messiah. Why does Jacob begin where he does rather than earlier? When the Lord says he will lift up his hand to the Gentiles (v. 6), what does he mean? What is the significance of lifting up the hand? What does “set up my standard” mean? As it is used here, a standard is a flag. Of what is it a symbol here? What does the Lord mean when he says he will set up his standard to the people? What service is it that the Gentiles will perform for Israel (v. 7)? What is the Lord promising the house of Israel?
  • vv. 51:4-6: These verses may help us understand 2 Ne 7:10-11 better: The Lord will give light to the earth by giving divine guidance, instruction, and salvation rather than that offered by the world. How do we distinguish between the two sources of light?
  • v. 52:1: Notice that the first part of this verse is a repetition of the first part of v. 9. Who was speaking there? Who is speaking here? The prophet? The Lord? Israel?

Resources[edit]

This section is for listing links and print resources, including those that are also cited elsewhere on this page. A short comment about the particular strengths of a resource can be helpful. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • See this post buy Jacob J. at the New Cool Thang blog for parallels between vv. 6:9-11 and 2 Ne 10:3-8.

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 8:6-10

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Summary[edit]

This heading should be very brief. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Scope. Second Nephi 6:6-7; 6:16-8:25 is Jacob quotation of Isaiah 49:22-52:2. This wiki page and its subpages are not intended, however, to address Isaiah. They are intended only to address Jacob's use of Isaiah. It is therefore suggested that readers consult the wiki pages that do address Isaiah 49:22-52:2 before viewing the pages that address Second Nephi 6-8. Contributors are likewise asked to respect this distinction. The idea is that a reader should be able to find content about an original passage from Isaiah on the wiki page addressing that passage. The wiki pages addressing Second Nephi 6-8 should focus on added insights that come from Nephi's use of Isaiah.

The relationship of Chapters 6-8 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

This section is for detailed discussion such as the meaning of a symbol, how a doctrinal point is developed throughout a passage, or insights that can be further developed in the future. Contributions may range from polished paragraphs down to a single bullet point. The focus, however, should always be on understanding the scriptural text consistent with LDS doctrine. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:9. The question of whether a sixth-century BC reference to crucifixion is anachronistic is answered by reference to Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which describes hanging a man from a tree as a form of capital punishment. The reader is also referred to The History of Crucifixion, which describes crucifixion of Athenian pirates a century before this Book of Mormon record, as well as a nearly-contemporaneous mass crucifixion of Darius I's political opponents in 519 BC.
  • 2 Ne 6:14. In the context of Hebraic culture, it is clear that the dust of one's feet represents the condemnation of the world (John 13:5, see also Matt 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5). Removing the dust from one's feet is akin to shaking the iniquities of the world from one's garments (2 Ne 9:44). In 2 Nephi 6, Jacob declares that Gentile kings and queens who bear up Israel will "lick up the dust of [the House of Israel's] feet" (2 Ne 6:7) and that the Gentiles who fight against Zion will do the same (2 Ne 6:13). One possible interpretation of these verses is that the Lord will use both Israel's allies and her enemies to cleanse her from the stains of the world. In affliction as well as in triumph, Israel will be lifted out of Babylon.

Unanswered questions[edit]

This section is for questions along the lines of "I still don't understand ..." Please do not be shy. The point of these questions is to identify things that still need to be addressed on this page. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for life application[edit]

This section is for prompts that suggest ways in which a passage can influence a person's life. Prompts may be appropriate either for private self reflection or for a class discussion. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:13. Here it says that the people of the Lord will not be ashamed. How wonderful will it be to stand in the presence of God with confidence?

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • Has Jacob used the chapters from Isaiah the way we might expect him to use them? We take them to be prophecies of Christ’s coming. How does he use them?
  • 2 Ne 6:2: What is the difference between being ordained and being consecrated? (Or is there a difference?) Why does Jacob remind them that he was consecrated by Nephi when he tells them of his priesthood calling? Was Nephi their king or not? 2 Ne 5:18 says that Nephi didn’t want to be their king, but indicates that he might have been anyway? though 2 Ne 5:19 suggests that he was something other than a king. If Nephi wasn’t their king, why does Jacob speak of Nephi in this way? How could the Nephites depend on one person, Nephi, for safety? What does it mean to say that he was their protector?
  • 2 Ne 6:4-5. Jacob says he is going to read them the words of Isaiah for they are meant for the house of Israel. What are the different senses of the phrase “house of Israel"? In what ways do they apply to each of the meanings of the phrase? In what ways might these words apply to us? In what ways do they apply to a narrower sense of “the house of Israel"?
  • 2 Ne 6:8-18. Compare what is in these verses to verses 6-7. Is this a question, a comment, or homework?
  • 2 Ne 6:12. What is the content of these covenants? What have the Gentiles been promised? This is homework.
  • 2 Ne 6:13. Jacob is interpreting the quotation from Isaiah in verse 7. What does Jacob mean in this verse? Who is licking the dust of whose feet?
  • 2 Ne 6:16-18. Jacob takes up his quotation from Isaiah again, taking up where he left off. (See Isa 49:24ff.) Notice that Jacob shifts back into quoting Isaiah without saying anything about the fact that he is doing so. Why not? Does that tell us anything about the office of a prophet?
  • 2 Ne 8: Isaiah 51. How would this speech, a speech from Isaiah 51 of consolation to Israel, be an appropriate thing for Jacob to repeat to the Nephites?
  • Jacob begins quoting Isaiah at Isa 49:22. The theme of Isa 49 is the redemption of Israel from captivity, and we understand the chapters from which Jacob reads (49-52) to be prophecies of the Messiah. Why does Jacob begin where he does rather than earlier? When the Lord says he will lift up his hand to the Gentiles (v. 6), what does he mean? What is the significance of lifting up the hand? What does “set up my standard” mean? As it is used here, a standard is a flag. Of what is it a symbol here? What does the Lord mean when he says he will set up his standard to the people? What service is it that the Gentiles will perform for Israel (v. 7)? What is the Lord promising the house of Israel?
  • vv. 51:4-6: These verses may help us understand 2 Ne 7:10-11 better: The Lord will give light to the earth by giving divine guidance, instruction, and salvation rather than that offered by the world. How do we distinguish between the two sources of light?
  • v. 52:1: Notice that the first part of this verse is a repetition of the first part of v. 9. Who was speaking there? Who is speaking here? The prophet? The Lord? Israel?

Resources[edit]

This section is for listing links and print resources, including those that are also cited elsewhere on this page. A short comment about the particular strengths of a resource can be helpful. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • See this post buy Jacob J. at the New Cool Thang blog for parallels between vv. 6:9-11 and 2 Ne 10:3-8.

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 8:11-15

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Summary[edit]

This heading should be very brief. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Scope. Second Nephi 6:6-7; 6:16-8:25 is Jacob quotation of Isaiah 49:22-52:2. This wiki page and its subpages are not intended, however, to address Isaiah. They are intended only to address Jacob's use of Isaiah. It is therefore suggested that readers consult the wiki pages that do address Isaiah 49:22-52:2 before viewing the pages that address Second Nephi 6-8. Contributors are likewise asked to respect this distinction. The idea is that a reader should be able to find content about an original passage from Isaiah on the wiki page addressing that passage. The wiki pages addressing Second Nephi 6-8 should focus on added insights that come from Nephi's use of Isaiah.

The relationship of Chapters 6-8 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 6:9. The question of whether a sixth-century BC reference to crucifixion is anachronistic is answered by reference to Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which describes hanging a man from a tree as a form of capital punishment. The reader is also referred to The History of Crucifixion, which describes crucifixion of Athenian pirates a century before this Book of Mormon record, as well as a nearly-contemporaneous mass crucifixion of Darius I's political opponents in 519 BC.
  • 2 Ne 6:14. In the context of Hebraic culture, it is clear that the dust of one's feet represents the condemnation of the world (John 13:5, see also Matt 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5). Removing the dust from one's feet is akin to shaking the iniquities of the world from one's garments (2 Ne 9:44). In 2 Nephi 6, Jacob declares that Gentile kings and queens who bear up Israel will "lick up the dust of [the House of Israel's] feet" (2 Ne 6:7) and that the Gentiles who fight against Zion will do the same (2 Ne 6:13). One possible interpretation of these verses is that the Lord will use both Israel's allies and her enemies to cleanse her from the stains of the world. In affliction as well as in triumph, Israel will be lifted out of Babylon.

Unanswered questions[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 6:13. Here it says that the people of the Lord will not be ashamed. How wonderful will it be to stand in the presence of God with confidence?

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • Has Jacob used the chapters from Isaiah the way we might expect him to use them? We take them to be prophecies of Christ’s coming. How does he use them?
  • 2 Ne 6:2: What is the difference between being ordained and being consecrated? (Or is there a difference?) Why does Jacob remind them that he was consecrated by Nephi when he tells them of his priesthood calling? Was Nephi their king or not? 2 Ne 5:18 says that Nephi didn’t want to be their king, but indicates that he might have been anyway? though 2 Ne 5:19 suggests that he was something other than a king. If Nephi wasn’t their king, why does Jacob speak of Nephi in this way? How could the Nephites depend on one person, Nephi, for safety? What does it mean to say that he was their protector?
  • 2 Ne 6:4-5. Jacob says he is going to read them the words of Isaiah for they are meant for the house of Israel. What are the different senses of the phrase “house of Israel"? In what ways do they apply to each of the meanings of the phrase? In what ways might these words apply to us? In what ways do they apply to a narrower sense of “the house of Israel"?
  • 2 Ne 6:8-18. Compare what is in these verses to verses 6-7. Is this a question, a comment, or homework?
  • 2 Ne 6:12. What is the content of these covenants? What have the Gentiles been promised? This is homework.
  • 2 Ne 6:13. Jacob is interpreting the quotation from Isaiah in verse 7. What does Jacob mean in this verse? Who is licking the dust of whose feet?
  • 2 Ne 6:16-18. Jacob takes up his quotation from Isaiah again, taking up where he left off. (See Isa 49:24ff.) Notice that Jacob shifts back into quoting Isaiah without saying anything about the fact that he is doing so. Why not? Does that tell us anything about the office of a prophet?
  • 2 Ne 8: Isaiah 51. How would this speech, a speech from Isaiah 51 of consolation to Israel, be an appropriate thing for Jacob to repeat to the Nephites?
  • Jacob begins quoting Isaiah at Isa 49:22. The theme of Isa 49 is the redemption of Israel from captivity, and we understand the chapters from which Jacob reads (49-52) to be prophecies of the Messiah. Why does Jacob begin where he does rather than earlier? When the Lord says he will lift up his hand to the Gentiles (v. 6), what does he mean? What is the significance of lifting up the hand? What does “set up my standard” mean? As it is used here, a standard is a flag. Of what is it a symbol here? What does the Lord mean when he says he will set up his standard to the people? What service is it that the Gentiles will perform for Israel (v. 7)? What is the Lord promising the house of Israel?
  • vv. 51:4-6: These verses may help us understand 2 Ne 7:10-11 better: The Lord will give light to the earth by giving divine guidance, instruction, and salvation rather than that offered by the world. How do we distinguish between the two sources of light?
  • v. 52:1: Notice that the first part of this verse is a repetition of the first part of v. 9. Who was speaking there? Who is speaking here? The prophet? The Lord? Israel?

Resources[edit]

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  • See this post buy Jacob J. at the New Cool Thang blog for parallels between vv. 6:9-11 and 2 Ne 10:3-8.

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 8:16-20

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Scope. Second Nephi 6:6-7; 6:16-8:25 is Jacob quotation of Isaiah 49:22-52:2. This wiki page and its subpages are not intended, however, to address Isaiah. They are intended only to address Jacob's use of Isaiah. It is therefore suggested that readers consult the wiki pages that do address Isaiah 49:22-52:2 before viewing the pages that address Second Nephi 6-8. Contributors are likewise asked to respect this distinction. The idea is that a reader should be able to find content about an original passage from Isaiah on the wiki page addressing that passage. The wiki pages addressing Second Nephi 6-8 should focus on added insights that come from Nephi's use of Isaiah.

The relationship of Chapters 6-8 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

This section is for detailed discussion such as the meaning of a symbol, how a doctrinal point is developed throughout a passage, or insights that can be further developed in the future. Contributions may range from polished paragraphs down to a single bullet point. The focus, however, should always be on understanding the scriptural text consistent with LDS doctrine. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 6:9. The question of whether a sixth-century BC reference to crucifixion is anachronistic is answered by reference to Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which describes hanging a man from a tree as a form of capital punishment. The reader is also referred to The History of Crucifixion, which describes crucifixion of Athenian pirates a century before this Book of Mormon record, as well as a nearly-contemporaneous mass crucifixion of Darius I's political opponents in 519 BC.
  • 2 Ne 6:14. In the context of Hebraic culture, it is clear that the dust of one's feet represents the condemnation of the world (John 13:5, see also Matt 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5). Removing the dust from one's feet is akin to shaking the iniquities of the world from one's garments (2 Ne 9:44). In 2 Nephi 6, Jacob declares that Gentile kings and queens who bear up Israel will "lick up the dust of [the House of Israel's] feet" (2 Ne 6:7) and that the Gentiles who fight against Zion will do the same (2 Ne 6:13). One possible interpretation of these verses is that the Lord will use both Israel's allies and her enemies to cleanse her from the stains of the world. In affliction as well as in triumph, Israel will be lifted out of Babylon.

Unanswered questions[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 6:13. Here it says that the people of the Lord will not be ashamed. How wonderful will it be to stand in the presence of God with confidence?

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • Has Jacob used the chapters from Isaiah the way we might expect him to use them? We take them to be prophecies of Christ’s coming. How does he use them?
  • 2 Ne 6:2: What is the difference between being ordained and being consecrated? (Or is there a difference?) Why does Jacob remind them that he was consecrated by Nephi when he tells them of his priesthood calling? Was Nephi their king or not? 2 Ne 5:18 says that Nephi didn’t want to be their king, but indicates that he might have been anyway? though 2 Ne 5:19 suggests that he was something other than a king. If Nephi wasn’t their king, why does Jacob speak of Nephi in this way? How could the Nephites depend on one person, Nephi, for safety? What does it mean to say that he was their protector?
  • 2 Ne 6:4-5. Jacob says he is going to read them the words of Isaiah for they are meant for the house of Israel. What are the different senses of the phrase “house of Israel"? In what ways do they apply to each of the meanings of the phrase? In what ways might these words apply to us? In what ways do they apply to a narrower sense of “the house of Israel"?
  • 2 Ne 6:8-18. Compare what is in these verses to verses 6-7. Is this a question, a comment, or homework?
  • 2 Ne 6:12. What is the content of these covenants? What have the Gentiles been promised? This is homework.
  • 2 Ne 6:13. Jacob is interpreting the quotation from Isaiah in verse 7. What does Jacob mean in this verse? Who is licking the dust of whose feet?
  • 2 Ne 6:16-18. Jacob takes up his quotation from Isaiah again, taking up where he left off. (See Isa 49:24ff.) Notice that Jacob shifts back into quoting Isaiah without saying anything about the fact that he is doing so. Why not? Does that tell us anything about the office of a prophet?
  • 2 Ne 8: Isaiah 51. How would this speech, a speech from Isaiah 51 of consolation to Israel, be an appropriate thing for Jacob to repeat to the Nephites?
  • Jacob begins quoting Isaiah at Isa 49:22. The theme of Isa 49 is the redemption of Israel from captivity, and we understand the chapters from which Jacob reads (49-52) to be prophecies of the Messiah. Why does Jacob begin where he does rather than earlier? When the Lord says he will lift up his hand to the Gentiles (v. 6), what does he mean? What is the significance of lifting up the hand? What does “set up my standard” mean? As it is used here, a standard is a flag. Of what is it a symbol here? What does the Lord mean when he says he will set up his standard to the people? What service is it that the Gentiles will perform for Israel (v. 7)? What is the Lord promising the house of Israel?
  • vv. 51:4-6: These verses may help us understand 2 Ne 7:10-11 better: The Lord will give light to the earth by giving divine guidance, instruction, and salvation rather than that offered by the world. How do we distinguish between the two sources of light?
  • v. 52:1: Notice that the first part of this verse is a repetition of the first part of v. 9. Who was speaking there? Who is speaking here? The prophet? The Lord? Israel?

Resources[edit]

This section is for listing links and print resources, including those that are also cited elsewhere on this page. A short comment about the particular strengths of a resource can be helpful. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • See this post buy Jacob J. at the New Cool Thang blog for parallels between vv. 6:9-11 and 2 Ne 10:3-8.

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 8:21-25

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Summary[edit]

This heading should be very brief. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Scope. Second Nephi 6:6-7; 6:16-8:25 is Jacob quotation of Isaiah 49:22-52:2. This wiki page and its subpages are not intended, however, to address Isaiah. They are intended only to address Jacob's use of Isaiah. It is therefore suggested that readers consult the wiki pages that do address Isaiah 49:22-52:2 before viewing the pages that address Second Nephi 6-8. Contributors are likewise asked to respect this distinction. The idea is that a reader should be able to find content about an original passage from Isaiah on the wiki page addressing that passage. The wiki pages addressing Second Nephi 6-8 should focus on added insights that come from Nephi's use of Isaiah.

The relationship of Chapters 6-8 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 6:9. The question of whether a sixth-century BC reference to crucifixion is anachronistic is answered by reference to Deuteronomy 21:22-23, which describes hanging a man from a tree as a form of capital punishment. The reader is also referred to The History of Crucifixion, which describes crucifixion of Athenian pirates a century before this Book of Mormon record, as well as a nearly-contemporaneous mass crucifixion of Darius I's political opponents in 519 BC.
  • 2 Ne 6:14. In the context of Hebraic culture, it is clear that the dust of one's feet represents the condemnation of the world (John 13:5, see also Matt 10:14, Mark 6:11, Luke 9:5). Removing the dust from one's feet is akin to shaking the iniquities of the world from one's garments (2 Ne 9:44). In 2 Nephi 6, Jacob declares that Gentile kings and queens who bear up Israel will "lick up the dust of [the House of Israel's] feet" (2 Ne 6:7) and that the Gentiles who fight against Zion will do the same (2 Ne 6:13). One possible interpretation of these verses is that the Lord will use both Israel's allies and her enemies to cleanse her from the stains of the world. In affliction as well as in triumph, Israel will be lifted out of Babylon.

Unanswered questions[edit]

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Prompts for life application[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 6:13. Here it says that the people of the Lord will not be ashamed. How wonderful will it be to stand in the presence of God with confidence?

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • Has Jacob used the chapters from Isaiah the way we might expect him to use them? We take them to be prophecies of Christ’s coming. How does he use them?
  • 2 Ne 6:2: What is the difference between being ordained and being consecrated? (Or is there a difference?) Why does Jacob remind them that he was consecrated by Nephi when he tells them of his priesthood calling? Was Nephi their king or not? 2 Ne 5:18 says that Nephi didn’t want to be their king, but indicates that he might have been anyway? though 2 Ne 5:19 suggests that he was something other than a king. If Nephi wasn’t their king, why does Jacob speak of Nephi in this way? How could the Nephites depend on one person, Nephi, for safety? What does it mean to say that he was their protector?
  • 2 Ne 6:4-5. Jacob says he is going to read them the words of Isaiah for they are meant for the house of Israel. What are the different senses of the phrase “house of Israel"? In what ways do they apply to each of the meanings of the phrase? In what ways might these words apply to us? In what ways do they apply to a narrower sense of “the house of Israel"?
  • 2 Ne 6:8-18. Compare what is in these verses to verses 6-7. Is this a question, a comment, or homework?
  • 2 Ne 6:12. What is the content of these covenants? What have the Gentiles been promised? This is homework.
  • 2 Ne 6:13. Jacob is interpreting the quotation from Isaiah in verse 7. What does Jacob mean in this verse? Who is licking the dust of whose feet?
  • 2 Ne 6:16-18. Jacob takes up his quotation from Isaiah again, taking up where he left off. (See Isa 49:24ff.) Notice that Jacob shifts back into quoting Isaiah without saying anything about the fact that he is doing so. Why not? Does that tell us anything about the office of a prophet?
  • 2 Ne 8: Isaiah 51. How would this speech, a speech from Isaiah 51 of consolation to Israel, be an appropriate thing for Jacob to repeat to the Nephites?
  • Jacob begins quoting Isaiah at Isa 49:22. The theme of Isa 49 is the redemption of Israel from captivity, and we understand the chapters from which Jacob reads (49-52) to be prophecies of the Messiah. Why does Jacob begin where he does rather than earlier? When the Lord says he will lift up his hand to the Gentiles (v. 6), what does he mean? What is the significance of lifting up the hand? What does “set up my standard” mean? As it is used here, a standard is a flag. Of what is it a symbol here? What does the Lord mean when he says he will set up his standard to the people? What service is it that the Gentiles will perform for Israel (v. 7)? What is the Lord promising the house of Israel?
  • vv. 51:4-6: These verses may help us understand 2 Ne 7:10-11 better: The Lord will give light to the earth by giving divine guidance, instruction, and salvation rather than that offered by the world. How do we distinguish between the two sources of light?
  • v. 52:1: Notice that the first part of this verse is a repetition of the first part of v. 9. Who was speaking there? Who is speaking here? The prophet? The Lord? Israel?

Resources[edit]

This section is for listing links and print resources, including those that are also cited elsewhere on this page. A short comment about the particular strengths of a resource can be helpful. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • See this post buy Jacob J. at the New Cool Thang blog for parallels between vv. 6:9-11 and 2 Ne 10:3-8.

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 9:1-5

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The relationship of Chapter 9 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7: Infinite. The word "infinite" appears in the King James Version of the Bible just three times, and in each case it is the translation of a different Hebrew word or words. ("Infinite" does not appear in the KJV New Testament.) In Job 25, the Hebrew qets means "without end" and refers to the iniquity of the wicked. In Psalm 147:5, the word micpar means basically "innumerable" and refers in that instance to the understanding or wisdom of the Lord. In Nahum 3:9 a pair of words is used that literally mean "without border" to refer to the limitless strength of Ethiopia (land of Cush) and Egypt.
  • 2 Ne 9:9: Combination. Webster’s 1828 dictionary says that a combination is an intimate union of several persons that has the purpose of bringing something about together.
  • 2 Ne 9:13. The end of verse 13 says that after the resurrection people will have "a perfect knowledge like unto us in the flesh." This suggests that our knowledge is currently perfect. But it isn't, as affirmed by the following clause "save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect." An alternate punctuation might make the meaning more clear:
"...having a perfect knowledge; like unto us in the flesh, save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect."
  • 2 Ne 9:21. Verse 21 can be usefully cross referenced with Alma 7:11-13.
  • 2 Ne 9:26. Verse 26 tells us that the atonement removes the guilt of those who don't obey the law because they don't know the law. We might have thought that such a transgression of the law doesn't require an atonement because the transgressor is not culpable. But it seems from the way Jacob understand the atonement that without the atonement such people would be guilty for transgressing laws they did not know.
  • 2 Ne 9:45. Notice how the command to shake off our chains resonates with the previous verse (and its reference to other verses) to tie these things together.

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  • 2 Ne 9:1-3: Why has Jacob read this passage from Isaiah to the Nephites? How will it help them to know that Israel will be restored in the last days? How could they apply this passage to themselves? How can we apply it to ourselves?
  • 2 Ne 9:4ff: How is a discussion of the atonement an explanation of the passage from Isaiah? How are the two related? How does the prophecy of Isaiah typify the atonement? (Such things as bondage and redemption from bondage occur in both discussions. Thinking about how those are alike can help us understand the atonement better and thinking about the atonement can help us understand Isaiah better.)
  • 2 Ne 9:7: What does Jacob mean by an "infinite atonement"?
  • 2 Ne 9:7: Why is it that if we weren't resurrected we would become subject to the devil? What is the connection between Jesus' conquering of physical death and his conquering of spiritual death?
  • 2 Ne 9:8-9: What would happen to us if there were no resurrection? Since there is a resurrection, what do we learn from v. 9? Does that teach us anything about the traditional Christian understanding of hell, where those not saved are punished by being eternally in the presence of Satan?
  • 2 Ne 9:9: What are “secret combinations"? Does secrecy make a combination bad? If so, why? If not, why is it the modifier used here? How are secret combinations antithetical to the gospel? (2 Ne 26:22-28 discusses this.) What kinds of things might count as secret combinations today? beyond the things that we sometimes hear mentioned in very conservative political discussions? Given the definition cited in Webster's 1828 dictionary (see lexical notes below), can we be part of a secret combination without knowing that we are? How do we avoid such combinations? How did the Book of Mormon people avoid them, when they did?
  • 2 Ne 9:10: When Jacob mentions “death and hell,” he seems to mean two things. (This doesn’t seem to me to be a repetition for emphasis.) What does he mean by “death"? What does he mean by “hell"? What does he mean by “death of the body"? by “death of the spirit"? How are these pairs of terms related to each other?
  • 2 Ne 9:13: What is the paradise Jacob is talking about? What do we usually call it?
  • 2 Ne 9:14: What kind of symbolism do you see in the contrast between guilt, uncleanness, and nakedness on the one hand, and enjoyment and the clothing of purity and the robe of righteousness on the other hand? Does reference back to 2 Ne 4:33 add any meaning to this verse? Why does Jacob identify himself with the wicked at the beginning of the verse ("we shall have a perfect knowledge of our guilt")?
  • 2 Ne 9:18: What are the crosses of the world? Who are those who have endured those crosses? Does this verse and those that follow have any connection to the passage from Isaiah that Jacob read? Why is the cross an important symbol in the Book of Mormon?
  • 2 Ne 9:21-22: Does this prophecy help us understand better the promises made to Israel by Isaiah? What does “hearken” mean? How do we hearken to the voice of the Lord? Is it possible to have faith but not to hearken or to hearken but not to have faith?
  • 2 Ne 9:22: We often consider the Atonement to consist of two almost separate parts--the suffering for our sins to make possible repentance, and the resurrection to make possible immortality. However, v. 22 links the two by stating that the suffering of sins took place to make possible the resurrection. How does Christ's suffering make the resurrection possible?
  • 2 Ne 9:23: This implies that we are commanded to have "perfect faith" in Chist--how do we obtain "perfect faith"?
  • 2 Ne 9:24: What reason does this verse give for the damnation of those who refuse to repent? Why is that the appropriate explanation for this discussion? In fact, what are we to make of an explanation like that?
  • 2 Ne 9:25-26: We sometimes speak as if the atonement is required because there is a law that God must obey. Does Jacob speak that way? What does he say? Who has given the law? Whose justice is it that must be satisfied?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-33: What part of Isaiah’s prophecy do these refer to and amplify?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-29: What kind of “wisdom” does Jacob warn against? What makes that supposed wisdom foolishness?
  • 2 Ne 9:29: What does it mean to "hearken unto the counsels of God"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: How might a wealthy person "despise the poor"? How might a wealthy person "persecute the meek"? How might wealthy people have their hearts "upon their treasures"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: What does it mean to make treasure your god?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why doesn't Jacob give the rich an out here in the same way he does the learned in v. 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why does Jacob warn the rich? Does he warn all of those who are rich or only some? What does it mean to be “rich as to the things of the world"? How much does one have to have to be described that way? Does this verse give us any understanding of such scriptures as Matt 19:21-26 and Mark 10:21-27? Together, vv. 29-30 seem to connect learning with riches. Why might they do so? What is the connection?
  • 2 Ne 9:34-37: Does Jacob’s warning turn to a different kind of sin here? If so, what is the difference? What is the similarity of the sins of these verses to those of 28-33?
  • 2 Ne 9:37: In what sense is this verse the culmination of the list that began in v. 28?
  • 2 Ne 9:38: What does it mean to die in one’s sins? How do we avoid that?
  • 2 Ne 9:40: When Jacob asks us to remember the greatness of The Holy One of Israel, what kinds of things does he want us to remember? What kinds of things which show that greatness did he mention in the quotation from Isaiah? What other things has he mentioned?
  • 2 Ne 9:41-43: What do the various types or symbols Jacob use show us? How do they connect his prophecy to other prophecies, specifically to what he has quoted from Isaiah? Notice that Jacob once again connects learning and wealth in v. 42, as he did in vv. 29-30.
  • 2 Ne 9:42: Where in LDS practice do we knock to enter into the presence of the Lord?
  • 2 Ne 9:47-48: What does Jacob imply about our feeling that we mustn’t ever say harsh things to one another? Under what circumstances would such harshness be permitted? How do we avoid using verses like this as an excuse for unnecessary and unkind harshness?
  • 2 Ne 9:50: Jacob quotes Isaiah again (Isa 55:1-2). Isaiah’s words seem never to be far from his thoughts as he delivers his sermon. Why might that be? The connection between the two seems to demand that we think about the relation of what he says to what Isaiah says if we are to understand fully Jacob’s message.
  • 2 Ne 9:50: What is the point of this verse? How does it relate to such things as Paul’s letter to the Romans where he teaches us that salvation comes by grace?
  • 2 Ne 9:51: How does v. 50 help explain this verse? What is of value? What is free? What is of no worth?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: What is the relation of this verse to the two that immediately precede it?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: "pray unto him continually by day, and give thanks unto his holy name by night. Do you think that the day or night reference is task specific? Meaning, that we should be more "pray-oriented" ("ask-oriented?") in the day and then be more "thankful-oriented" at night?
  • 2 Ne 9:53: In what sense is this a repetition of everything that has been said in the last several chapters? Does thinking in terms of types and shadows throw any light on this verse? Is Jacob drawing a parallel between covenants and condescensions? If so, what does that parallel teach us?

Resources[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7. Shayne M. Bowen, "The Atonement Can Clean, Reclaim, and Sanctify Our Lives," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 33–34. Elder Bowen taught: "The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone... It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means–total, complete, all, forever."

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 9:6-10

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  • 2 Ne 9:7: Infinite. The word "infinite" appears in the King James Version of the Bible just three times, and in each case it is the translation of a different Hebrew word or words. ("Infinite" does not appear in the KJV New Testament.) In Job 25, the Hebrew qets means "without end" and refers to the iniquity of the wicked. In Psalm 147:5, the word micpar means basically "innumerable" and refers in that instance to the understanding or wisdom of the Lord. In Nahum 3:9 a pair of words is used that literally mean "without border" to refer to the limitless strength of Ethiopia (land of Cush) and Egypt.
  • 2 Ne 9:9: Combination. Webster’s 1828 dictionary says that a combination is an intimate union of several persons that has the purpose of bringing something about together.
  • 2 Ne 9:13. The end of verse 13 says that after the resurrection people will have "a perfect knowledge like unto us in the flesh." This suggests that our knowledge is currently perfect. But it isn't, as affirmed by the following clause "save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect." An alternate punctuation might make the meaning more clear:
"...having a perfect knowledge; like unto us in the flesh, save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect."
  • 2 Ne 9:21. Verse 21 can be usefully cross referenced with Alma 7:11-13.
  • 2 Ne 9:26. Verse 26 tells us that the atonement removes the guilt of those who don't obey the law because they don't know the law. We might have thought that such a transgression of the law doesn't require an atonement because the transgressor is not culpable. But it seems from the way Jacob understand the atonement that without the atonement such people would be guilty for transgressing laws they did not know.
  • 2 Ne 9:45. Notice how the command to shake off our chains resonates with the previous verse (and its reference to other verses) to tie these things together.

Unanswered questions[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:1-3: Why has Jacob read this passage from Isaiah to the Nephites? How will it help them to know that Israel will be restored in the last days? How could they apply this passage to themselves? How can we apply it to ourselves?
  • 2 Ne 9:4ff: How is a discussion of the atonement an explanation of the passage from Isaiah? How are the two related? How does the prophecy of Isaiah typify the atonement? (Such things as bondage and redemption from bondage occur in both discussions. Thinking about how those are alike can help us understand the atonement better and thinking about the atonement can help us understand Isaiah better.)
  • 2 Ne 9:7: What does Jacob mean by an "infinite atonement"?
  • 2 Ne 9:7: Why is it that if we weren't resurrected we would become subject to the devil? What is the connection between Jesus' conquering of physical death and his conquering of spiritual death?
  • 2 Ne 9:8-9: What would happen to us if there were no resurrection? Since there is a resurrection, what do we learn from v. 9? Does that teach us anything about the traditional Christian understanding of hell, where those not saved are punished by being eternally in the presence of Satan?
  • 2 Ne 9:9: What are “secret combinations"? Does secrecy make a combination bad? If so, why? If not, why is it the modifier used here? How are secret combinations antithetical to the gospel? (2 Ne 26:22-28 discusses this.) What kinds of things might count as secret combinations today? beyond the things that we sometimes hear mentioned in very conservative political discussions? Given the definition cited in Webster's 1828 dictionary (see lexical notes below), can we be part of a secret combination without knowing that we are? How do we avoid such combinations? How did the Book of Mormon people avoid them, when they did?
  • 2 Ne 9:10: When Jacob mentions “death and hell,” he seems to mean two things. (This doesn’t seem to me to be a repetition for emphasis.) What does he mean by “death"? What does he mean by “hell"? What does he mean by “death of the body"? by “death of the spirit"? How are these pairs of terms related to each other?
  • 2 Ne 9:13: What is the paradise Jacob is talking about? What do we usually call it?
  • 2 Ne 9:14: What kind of symbolism do you see in the contrast between guilt, uncleanness, and nakedness on the one hand, and enjoyment and the clothing of purity and the robe of righteousness on the other hand? Does reference back to 2 Ne 4:33 add any meaning to this verse? Why does Jacob identify himself with the wicked at the beginning of the verse ("we shall have a perfect knowledge of our guilt")?
  • 2 Ne 9:18: What are the crosses of the world? Who are those who have endured those crosses? Does this verse and those that follow have any connection to the passage from Isaiah that Jacob read? Why is the cross an important symbol in the Book of Mormon?
  • 2 Ne 9:21-22: Does this prophecy help us understand better the promises made to Israel by Isaiah? What does “hearken” mean? How do we hearken to the voice of the Lord? Is it possible to have faith but not to hearken or to hearken but not to have faith?
  • 2 Ne 9:22: We often consider the Atonement to consist of two almost separate parts--the suffering for our sins to make possible repentance, and the resurrection to make possible immortality. However, v. 22 links the two by stating that the suffering of sins took place to make possible the resurrection. How does Christ's suffering make the resurrection possible?
  • 2 Ne 9:23: This implies that we are commanded to have "perfect faith" in Chist--how do we obtain "perfect faith"?
  • 2 Ne 9:24: What reason does this verse give for the damnation of those who refuse to repent? Why is that the appropriate explanation for this discussion? In fact, what are we to make of an explanation like that?
  • 2 Ne 9:25-26: We sometimes speak as if the atonement is required because there is a law that God must obey. Does Jacob speak that way? What does he say? Who has given the law? Whose justice is it that must be satisfied?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-33: What part of Isaiah’s prophecy do these refer to and amplify?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-29: What kind of “wisdom” does Jacob warn against? What makes that supposed wisdom foolishness?
  • 2 Ne 9:29: What does it mean to "hearken unto the counsels of God"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: How might a wealthy person "despise the poor"? How might a wealthy person "persecute the meek"? How might wealthy people have their hearts "upon their treasures"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: What does it mean to make treasure your god?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why doesn't Jacob give the rich an out here in the same way he does the learned in v. 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why does Jacob warn the rich? Does he warn all of those who are rich or only some? What does it mean to be “rich as to the things of the world"? How much does one have to have to be described that way? Does this verse give us any understanding of such scriptures as Matt 19:21-26 and Mark 10:21-27? Together, vv. 29-30 seem to connect learning with riches. Why might they do so? What is the connection?
  • 2 Ne 9:34-37: Does Jacob’s warning turn to a different kind of sin here? If so, what is the difference? What is the similarity of the sins of these verses to those of 28-33?
  • 2 Ne 9:37: In what sense is this verse the culmination of the list that began in v. 28?
  • 2 Ne 9:38: What does it mean to die in one’s sins? How do we avoid that?
  • 2 Ne 9:40: When Jacob asks us to remember the greatness of The Holy One of Israel, what kinds of things does he want us to remember? What kinds of things which show that greatness did he mention in the quotation from Isaiah? What other things has he mentioned?
  • 2 Ne 9:41-43: What do the various types or symbols Jacob use show us? How do they connect his prophecy to other prophecies, specifically to what he has quoted from Isaiah? Notice that Jacob once again connects learning and wealth in v. 42, as he did in vv. 29-30.
  • 2 Ne 9:42: Where in LDS practice do we knock to enter into the presence of the Lord?
  • 2 Ne 9:47-48: What does Jacob imply about our feeling that we mustn’t ever say harsh things to one another? Under what circumstances would such harshness be permitted? How do we avoid using verses like this as an excuse for unnecessary and unkind harshness?
  • 2 Ne 9:50: Jacob quotes Isaiah again (Isa 55:1-2). Isaiah’s words seem never to be far from his thoughts as he delivers his sermon. Why might that be? The connection between the two seems to demand that we think about the relation of what he says to what Isaiah says if we are to understand fully Jacob’s message.
  • 2 Ne 9:50: What is the point of this verse? How does it relate to such things as Paul’s letter to the Romans where he teaches us that salvation comes by grace?
  • 2 Ne 9:51: How does v. 50 help explain this verse? What is of value? What is free? What is of no worth?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: What is the relation of this verse to the two that immediately precede it?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: "pray unto him continually by day, and give thanks unto his holy name by night. Do you think that the day or night reference is task specific? Meaning, that we should be more "pray-oriented" ("ask-oriented?") in the day and then be more "thankful-oriented" at night?
  • 2 Ne 9:53: In what sense is this a repetition of everything that has been said in the last several chapters? Does thinking in terms of types and shadows throw any light on this verse? Is Jacob drawing a parallel between covenants and condescensions? If so, what does that parallel teach us?

Resources[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7. Shayne M. Bowen, "The Atonement Can Clean, Reclaim, and Sanctify Our Lives," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 33–34. Elder Bowen taught: "The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone... It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means–total, complete, all, forever."

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 9:11-15

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Summary[edit]

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The relationship of Chapter 9 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7: Infinite. The word "infinite" appears in the King James Version of the Bible just three times, and in each case it is the translation of a different Hebrew word or words. ("Infinite" does not appear in the KJV New Testament.) In Job 25, the Hebrew qets means "without end" and refers to the iniquity of the wicked. In Psalm 147:5, the word micpar means basically "innumerable" and refers in that instance to the understanding or wisdom of the Lord. In Nahum 3:9 a pair of words is used that literally mean "without border" to refer to the limitless strength of Ethiopia (land of Cush) and Egypt.
  • 2 Ne 9:9: Combination. Webster’s 1828 dictionary says that a combination is an intimate union of several persons that has the purpose of bringing something about together.
  • 2 Ne 9:13. The end of verse 13 says that after the resurrection people will have "a perfect knowledge like unto us in the flesh." This suggests that our knowledge is currently perfect. But it isn't, as affirmed by the following clause "save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect." An alternate punctuation might make the meaning more clear:
"...having a perfect knowledge; like unto us in the flesh, save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect."
  • 2 Ne 9:21. Verse 21 can be usefully cross referenced with Alma 7:11-13.
  • 2 Ne 9:26. Verse 26 tells us that the atonement removes the guilt of those who don't obey the law because they don't know the law. We might have thought that such a transgression of the law doesn't require an atonement because the transgressor is not culpable. But it seems from the way Jacob understand the atonement that without the atonement such people would be guilty for transgressing laws they did not know.
  • 2 Ne 9:45. Notice how the command to shake off our chains resonates with the previous verse (and its reference to other verses) to tie these things together.

Unanswered questions[edit]

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Prompts for life application[edit]

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Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 9:1-3: Why has Jacob read this passage from Isaiah to the Nephites? How will it help them to know that Israel will be restored in the last days? How could they apply this passage to themselves? How can we apply it to ourselves?
  • 2 Ne 9:4ff: How is a discussion of the atonement an explanation of the passage from Isaiah? How are the two related? How does the prophecy of Isaiah typify the atonement? (Such things as bondage and redemption from bondage occur in both discussions. Thinking about how those are alike can help us understand the atonement better and thinking about the atonement can help us understand Isaiah better.)
  • 2 Ne 9:7: What does Jacob mean by an "infinite atonement"?
  • 2 Ne 9:7: Why is it that if we weren't resurrected we would become subject to the devil? What is the connection between Jesus' conquering of physical death and his conquering of spiritual death?
  • 2 Ne 9:8-9: What would happen to us if there were no resurrection? Since there is a resurrection, what do we learn from v. 9? Does that teach us anything about the traditional Christian understanding of hell, where those not saved are punished by being eternally in the presence of Satan?
  • 2 Ne 9:9: What are “secret combinations"? Does secrecy make a combination bad? If so, why? If not, why is it the modifier used here? How are secret combinations antithetical to the gospel? (2 Ne 26:22-28 discusses this.) What kinds of things might count as secret combinations today? beyond the things that we sometimes hear mentioned in very conservative political discussions? Given the definition cited in Webster's 1828 dictionary (see lexical notes below), can we be part of a secret combination without knowing that we are? How do we avoid such combinations? How did the Book of Mormon people avoid them, when they did?
  • 2 Ne 9:10: When Jacob mentions “death and hell,” he seems to mean two things. (This doesn’t seem to me to be a repetition for emphasis.) What does he mean by “death"? What does he mean by “hell"? What does he mean by “death of the body"? by “death of the spirit"? How are these pairs of terms related to each other?
  • 2 Ne 9:13: What is the paradise Jacob is talking about? What do we usually call it?
  • 2 Ne 9:14: What kind of symbolism do you see in the contrast between guilt, uncleanness, and nakedness on the one hand, and enjoyment and the clothing of purity and the robe of righteousness on the other hand? Does reference back to 2 Ne 4:33 add any meaning to this verse? Why does Jacob identify himself with the wicked at the beginning of the verse ("we shall have a perfect knowledge of our guilt")?
  • 2 Ne 9:18: What are the crosses of the world? Who are those who have endured those crosses? Does this verse and those that follow have any connection to the passage from Isaiah that Jacob read? Why is the cross an important symbol in the Book of Mormon?
  • 2 Ne 9:21-22: Does this prophecy help us understand better the promises made to Israel by Isaiah? What does “hearken” mean? How do we hearken to the voice of the Lord? Is it possible to have faith but not to hearken or to hearken but not to have faith?
  • 2 Ne 9:22: We often consider the Atonement to consist of two almost separate parts--the suffering for our sins to make possible repentance, and the resurrection to make possible immortality. However, v. 22 links the two by stating that the suffering of sins took place to make possible the resurrection. How does Christ's suffering make the resurrection possible?
  • 2 Ne 9:23: This implies that we are commanded to have "perfect faith" in Chist--how do we obtain "perfect faith"?
  • 2 Ne 9:24: What reason does this verse give for the damnation of those who refuse to repent? Why is that the appropriate explanation for this discussion? In fact, what are we to make of an explanation like that?
  • 2 Ne 9:25-26: We sometimes speak as if the atonement is required because there is a law that God must obey. Does Jacob speak that way? What does he say? Who has given the law? Whose justice is it that must be satisfied?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-33: What part of Isaiah’s prophecy do these refer to and amplify?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-29: What kind of “wisdom” does Jacob warn against? What makes that supposed wisdom foolishness?
  • 2 Ne 9:29: What does it mean to "hearken unto the counsels of God"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: How might a wealthy person "despise the poor"? How might a wealthy person "persecute the meek"? How might wealthy people have their hearts "upon their treasures"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: What does it mean to make treasure your god?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why doesn't Jacob give the rich an out here in the same way he does the learned in v. 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why does Jacob warn the rich? Does he warn all of those who are rich or only some? What does it mean to be “rich as to the things of the world"? How much does one have to have to be described that way? Does this verse give us any understanding of such scriptures as Matt 19:21-26 and Mark 10:21-27? Together, vv. 29-30 seem to connect learning with riches. Why might they do so? What is the connection?
  • 2 Ne 9:34-37: Does Jacob’s warning turn to a different kind of sin here? If so, what is the difference? What is the similarity of the sins of these verses to those of 28-33?
  • 2 Ne 9:37: In what sense is this verse the culmination of the list that began in v. 28?
  • 2 Ne 9:38: What does it mean to die in one’s sins? How do we avoid that?
  • 2 Ne 9:40: When Jacob asks us to remember the greatness of The Holy One of Israel, what kinds of things does he want us to remember? What kinds of things which show that greatness did he mention in the quotation from Isaiah? What other things has he mentioned?
  • 2 Ne 9:41-43: What do the various types or symbols Jacob use show us? How do they connect his prophecy to other prophecies, specifically to what he has quoted from Isaiah? Notice that Jacob once again connects learning and wealth in v. 42, as he did in vv. 29-30.
  • 2 Ne 9:42: Where in LDS practice do we knock to enter into the presence of the Lord?
  • 2 Ne 9:47-48: What does Jacob imply about our feeling that we mustn’t ever say harsh things to one another? Under what circumstances would such harshness be permitted? How do we avoid using verses like this as an excuse for unnecessary and unkind harshness?
  • 2 Ne 9:50: Jacob quotes Isaiah again (Isa 55:1-2). Isaiah’s words seem never to be far from his thoughts as he delivers his sermon. Why might that be? The connection between the two seems to demand that we think about the relation of what he says to what Isaiah says if we are to understand fully Jacob’s message.
  • 2 Ne 9:50: What is the point of this verse? How does it relate to such things as Paul’s letter to the Romans where he teaches us that salvation comes by grace?
  • 2 Ne 9:51: How does v. 50 help explain this verse? What is of value? What is free? What is of no worth?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: What is the relation of this verse to the two that immediately precede it?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: "pray unto him continually by day, and give thanks unto his holy name by night. Do you think that the day or night reference is task specific? Meaning, that we should be more "pray-oriented" ("ask-oriented?") in the day and then be more "thankful-oriented" at night?
  • 2 Ne 9:53: In what sense is this a repetition of everything that has been said in the last several chapters? Does thinking in terms of types and shadows throw any light on this verse? Is Jacob drawing a parallel between covenants and condescensions? If so, what does that parallel teach us?

Resources[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7. Shayne M. Bowen, "The Atonement Can Clean, Reclaim, and Sanctify Our Lives," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 33–34. Elder Bowen taught: "The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone... It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means–total, complete, all, forever."

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 9:16-20

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Summary[edit]

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The relationship of Chapter 9 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

This section is for detailed discussion such as the meaning of a symbol, how a doctrinal point is developed throughout a passage, or insights that can be further developed in the future. Contributions may range from polished paragraphs down to a single bullet point. The focus, however, should always be on understanding the scriptural text consistent with LDS doctrine. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 9:7: Infinite. The word "infinite" appears in the King James Version of the Bible just three times, and in each case it is the translation of a different Hebrew word or words. ("Infinite" does not appear in the KJV New Testament.) In Job 25, the Hebrew qets means "without end" and refers to the iniquity of the wicked. In Psalm 147:5, the word micpar means basically "innumerable" and refers in that instance to the understanding or wisdom of the Lord. In Nahum 3:9 a pair of words is used that literally mean "without border" to refer to the limitless strength of Ethiopia (land of Cush) and Egypt.
  • 2 Ne 9:9: Combination. Webster’s 1828 dictionary says that a combination is an intimate union of several persons that has the purpose of bringing something about together.
  • 2 Ne 9:13. The end of verse 13 says that after the resurrection people will have "a perfect knowledge like unto us in the flesh." This suggests that our knowledge is currently perfect. But it isn't, as affirmed by the following clause "save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect." An alternate punctuation might make the meaning more clear:
"...having a perfect knowledge; like unto us in the flesh, save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect."
  • 2 Ne 9:21. Verse 21 can be usefully cross referenced with Alma 7:11-13.
  • 2 Ne 9:26. Verse 26 tells us that the atonement removes the guilt of those who don't obey the law because they don't know the law. We might have thought that such a transgression of the law doesn't require an atonement because the transgressor is not culpable. But it seems from the way Jacob understand the atonement that without the atonement such people would be guilty for transgressing laws they did not know.
  • 2 Ne 9:45. Notice how the command to shake off our chains resonates with the previous verse (and its reference to other verses) to tie these things together.

Unanswered questions[edit]

This section is for questions along the lines of "I still don't understand ..." Please do not be shy. The point of these questions is to identify things that still need to be addressed on this page. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for life application[edit]

This section is for prompts that suggest ways in which a passage can influence a person's life. Prompts may be appropriate either for private self reflection or for a class discussion. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for further study[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:1-3: Why has Jacob read this passage from Isaiah to the Nephites? How will it help them to know that Israel will be restored in the last days? How could they apply this passage to themselves? How can we apply it to ourselves?
  • 2 Ne 9:4ff: How is a discussion of the atonement an explanation of the passage from Isaiah? How are the two related? How does the prophecy of Isaiah typify the atonement? (Such things as bondage and redemption from bondage occur in both discussions. Thinking about how those are alike can help us understand the atonement better and thinking about the atonement can help us understand Isaiah better.)
  • 2 Ne 9:7: What does Jacob mean by an "infinite atonement"?
  • 2 Ne 9:7: Why is it that if we weren't resurrected we would become subject to the devil? What is the connection between Jesus' conquering of physical death and his conquering of spiritual death?
  • 2 Ne 9:8-9: What would happen to us if there were no resurrection? Since there is a resurrection, what do we learn from v. 9? Does that teach us anything about the traditional Christian understanding of hell, where those not saved are punished by being eternally in the presence of Satan?
  • 2 Ne 9:9: What are “secret combinations"? Does secrecy make a combination bad? If so, why? If not, why is it the modifier used here? How are secret combinations antithetical to the gospel? (2 Ne 26:22-28 discusses this.) What kinds of things might count as secret combinations today? beyond the things that we sometimes hear mentioned in very conservative political discussions? Given the definition cited in Webster's 1828 dictionary (see lexical notes below), can we be part of a secret combination without knowing that we are? How do we avoid such combinations? How did the Book of Mormon people avoid them, when they did?
  • 2 Ne 9:10: When Jacob mentions “death and hell,” he seems to mean two things. (This doesn’t seem to me to be a repetition for emphasis.) What does he mean by “death"? What does he mean by “hell"? What does he mean by “death of the body"? by “death of the spirit"? How are these pairs of terms related to each other?
  • 2 Ne 9:13: What is the paradise Jacob is talking about? What do we usually call it?
  • 2 Ne 9:14: What kind of symbolism do you see in the contrast between guilt, uncleanness, and nakedness on the one hand, and enjoyment and the clothing of purity and the robe of righteousness on the other hand? Does reference back to 2 Ne 4:33 add any meaning to this verse? Why does Jacob identify himself with the wicked at the beginning of the verse ("we shall have a perfect knowledge of our guilt")?
  • 2 Ne 9:18: What are the crosses of the world? Who are those who have endured those crosses? Does this verse and those that follow have any connection to the passage from Isaiah that Jacob read? Why is the cross an important symbol in the Book of Mormon?
  • 2 Ne 9:21-22: Does this prophecy help us understand better the promises made to Israel by Isaiah? What does “hearken” mean? How do we hearken to the voice of the Lord? Is it possible to have faith but not to hearken or to hearken but not to have faith?
  • 2 Ne 9:22: We often consider the Atonement to consist of two almost separate parts--the suffering for our sins to make possible repentance, and the resurrection to make possible immortality. However, v. 22 links the two by stating that the suffering of sins took place to make possible the resurrection. How does Christ's suffering make the resurrection possible?
  • 2 Ne 9:23: This implies that we are commanded to have "perfect faith" in Chist--how do we obtain "perfect faith"?
  • 2 Ne 9:24: What reason does this verse give for the damnation of those who refuse to repent? Why is that the appropriate explanation for this discussion? In fact, what are we to make of an explanation like that?
  • 2 Ne 9:25-26: We sometimes speak as if the atonement is required because there is a law that God must obey. Does Jacob speak that way? What does he say? Who has given the law? Whose justice is it that must be satisfied?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-33: What part of Isaiah’s prophecy do these refer to and amplify?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-29: What kind of “wisdom” does Jacob warn against? What makes that supposed wisdom foolishness?
  • 2 Ne 9:29: What does it mean to "hearken unto the counsels of God"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: How might a wealthy person "despise the poor"? How might a wealthy person "persecute the meek"? How might wealthy people have their hearts "upon their treasures"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: What does it mean to make treasure your god?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why doesn't Jacob give the rich an out here in the same way he does the learned in v. 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why does Jacob warn the rich? Does he warn all of those who are rich or only some? What does it mean to be “rich as to the things of the world"? How much does one have to have to be described that way? Does this verse give us any understanding of such scriptures as Matt 19:21-26 and Mark 10:21-27? Together, vv. 29-30 seem to connect learning with riches. Why might they do so? What is the connection?
  • 2 Ne 9:34-37: Does Jacob’s warning turn to a different kind of sin here? If so, what is the difference? What is the similarity of the sins of these verses to those of 28-33?
  • 2 Ne 9:37: In what sense is this verse the culmination of the list that began in v. 28?
  • 2 Ne 9:38: What does it mean to die in one’s sins? How do we avoid that?
  • 2 Ne 9:40: When Jacob asks us to remember the greatness of The Holy One of Israel, what kinds of things does he want us to remember? What kinds of things which show that greatness did he mention in the quotation from Isaiah? What other things has he mentioned?
  • 2 Ne 9:41-43: What do the various types or symbols Jacob use show us? How do they connect his prophecy to other prophecies, specifically to what he has quoted from Isaiah? Notice that Jacob once again connects learning and wealth in v. 42, as he did in vv. 29-30.
  • 2 Ne 9:42: Where in LDS practice do we knock to enter into the presence of the Lord?
  • 2 Ne 9:47-48: What does Jacob imply about our feeling that we mustn’t ever say harsh things to one another? Under what circumstances would such harshness be permitted? How do we avoid using verses like this as an excuse for unnecessary and unkind harshness?
  • 2 Ne 9:50: Jacob quotes Isaiah again (Isa 55:1-2). Isaiah’s words seem never to be far from his thoughts as he delivers his sermon. Why might that be? The connection between the two seems to demand that we think about the relation of what he says to what Isaiah says if we are to understand fully Jacob’s message.
  • 2 Ne 9:50: What is the point of this verse? How does it relate to such things as Paul’s letter to the Romans where he teaches us that salvation comes by grace?
  • 2 Ne 9:51: How does v. 50 help explain this verse? What is of value? What is free? What is of no worth?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: What is the relation of this verse to the two that immediately precede it?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: "pray unto him continually by day, and give thanks unto his holy name by night. Do you think that the day or night reference is task specific? Meaning, that we should be more "pray-oriented" ("ask-oriented?") in the day and then be more "thankful-oriented" at night?
  • 2 Ne 9:53: In what sense is this a repetition of everything that has been said in the last several chapters? Does thinking in terms of types and shadows throw any light on this verse? Is Jacob drawing a parallel between covenants and condescensions? If so, what does that parallel teach us?

Resources[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7. Shayne M. Bowen, "The Atonement Can Clean, Reclaim, and Sanctify Our Lives," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 33–34. Elder Bowen taught: "The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone... It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means–total, complete, all, forever."

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 9:21-25

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Discussion[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7: Infinite. The word "infinite" appears in the King James Version of the Bible just three times, and in each case it is the translation of a different Hebrew word or words. ("Infinite" does not appear in the KJV New Testament.) In Job 25, the Hebrew qets means "without end" and refers to the iniquity of the wicked. In Psalm 147:5, the word micpar means basically "innumerable" and refers in that instance to the understanding or wisdom of the Lord. In Nahum 3:9 a pair of words is used that literally mean "without border" to refer to the limitless strength of Ethiopia (land of Cush) and Egypt.
  • 2 Ne 9:9: Combination. Webster’s 1828 dictionary says that a combination is an intimate union of several persons that has the purpose of bringing something about together.
  • 2 Ne 9:13. The end of verse 13 says that after the resurrection people will have "a perfect knowledge like unto us in the flesh." This suggests that our knowledge is currently perfect. But it isn't, as affirmed by the following clause "save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect." An alternate punctuation might make the meaning more clear:
"...having a perfect knowledge; like unto us in the flesh, save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect."
  • 2 Ne 9:21. Verse 21 can be usefully cross referenced with Alma 7:11-13.
  • 2 Ne 9:26. Verse 26 tells us that the atonement removes the guilt of those who don't obey the law because they don't know the law. We might have thought that such a transgression of the law doesn't require an atonement because the transgressor is not culpable. But it seems from the way Jacob understand the atonement that without the atonement such people would be guilty for transgressing laws they did not know.
  • 2 Ne 9:45. Notice how the command to shake off our chains resonates with the previous verse (and its reference to other verses) to tie these things together.

Unanswered questions[edit]

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Prompts for life application[edit]

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Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 9:1-3: Why has Jacob read this passage from Isaiah to the Nephites? How will it help them to know that Israel will be restored in the last days? How could they apply this passage to themselves? How can we apply it to ourselves?
  • 2 Ne 9:4ff: How is a discussion of the atonement an explanation of the passage from Isaiah? How are the two related? How does the prophecy of Isaiah typify the atonement? (Such things as bondage and redemption from bondage occur in both discussions. Thinking about how those are alike can help us understand the atonement better and thinking about the atonement can help us understand Isaiah better.)
  • 2 Ne 9:7: What does Jacob mean by an "infinite atonement"?
  • 2 Ne 9:7: Why is it that if we weren't resurrected we would become subject to the devil? What is the connection between Jesus' conquering of physical death and his conquering of spiritual death?
  • 2 Ne 9:8-9: What would happen to us if there were no resurrection? Since there is a resurrection, what do we learn from v. 9? Does that teach us anything about the traditional Christian understanding of hell, where those not saved are punished by being eternally in the presence of Satan?
  • 2 Ne 9:9: What are “secret combinations"? Does secrecy make a combination bad? If so, why? If not, why is it the modifier used here? How are secret combinations antithetical to the gospel? (2 Ne 26:22-28 discusses this.) What kinds of things might count as secret combinations today? beyond the things that we sometimes hear mentioned in very conservative political discussions? Given the definition cited in Webster's 1828 dictionary (see lexical notes below), can we be part of a secret combination without knowing that we are? How do we avoid such combinations? How did the Book of Mormon people avoid them, when they did?
  • 2 Ne 9:10: When Jacob mentions “death and hell,” he seems to mean two things. (This doesn’t seem to me to be a repetition for emphasis.) What does he mean by “death"? What does he mean by “hell"? What does he mean by “death of the body"? by “death of the spirit"? How are these pairs of terms related to each other?
  • 2 Ne 9:13: What is the paradise Jacob is talking about? What do we usually call it?
  • 2 Ne 9:14: What kind of symbolism do you see in the contrast between guilt, uncleanness, and nakedness on the one hand, and enjoyment and the clothing of purity and the robe of righteousness on the other hand? Does reference back to 2 Ne 4:33 add any meaning to this verse? Why does Jacob identify himself with the wicked at the beginning of the verse ("we shall have a perfect knowledge of our guilt")?
  • 2 Ne 9:18: What are the crosses of the world? Who are those who have endured those crosses? Does this verse and those that follow have any connection to the passage from Isaiah that Jacob read? Why is the cross an important symbol in the Book of Mormon?
  • 2 Ne 9:21-22: Does this prophecy help us understand better the promises made to Israel by Isaiah? What does “hearken” mean? How do we hearken to the voice of the Lord? Is it possible to have faith but not to hearken or to hearken but not to have faith?
  • 2 Ne 9:22: We often consider the Atonement to consist of two almost separate parts--the suffering for our sins to make possible repentance, and the resurrection to make possible immortality. However, v. 22 links the two by stating that the suffering of sins took place to make possible the resurrection. How does Christ's suffering make the resurrection possible?
  • 2 Ne 9:23: This implies that we are commanded to have "perfect faith" in Chist--how do we obtain "perfect faith"?
  • 2 Ne 9:24: What reason does this verse give for the damnation of those who refuse to repent? Why is that the appropriate explanation for this discussion? In fact, what are we to make of an explanation like that?
  • 2 Ne 9:25-26: We sometimes speak as if the atonement is required because there is a law that God must obey. Does Jacob speak that way? What does he say? Who has given the law? Whose justice is it that must be satisfied?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-33: What part of Isaiah’s prophecy do these refer to and amplify?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-29: What kind of “wisdom” does Jacob warn against? What makes that supposed wisdom foolishness?
  • 2 Ne 9:29: What does it mean to "hearken unto the counsels of God"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: How might a wealthy person "despise the poor"? How might a wealthy person "persecute the meek"? How might wealthy people have their hearts "upon their treasures"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: What does it mean to make treasure your god?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why doesn't Jacob give the rich an out here in the same way he does the learned in v. 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why does Jacob warn the rich? Does he warn all of those who are rich or only some? What does it mean to be “rich as to the things of the world"? How much does one have to have to be described that way? Does this verse give us any understanding of such scriptures as Matt 19:21-26 and Mark 10:21-27? Together, vv. 29-30 seem to connect learning with riches. Why might they do so? What is the connection?
  • 2 Ne 9:34-37: Does Jacob’s warning turn to a different kind of sin here? If so, what is the difference? What is the similarity of the sins of these verses to those of 28-33?
  • 2 Ne 9:37: In what sense is this verse the culmination of the list that began in v. 28?
  • 2 Ne 9:38: What does it mean to die in one’s sins? How do we avoid that?
  • 2 Ne 9:40: When Jacob asks us to remember the greatness of The Holy One of Israel, what kinds of things does he want us to remember? What kinds of things which show that greatness did he mention in the quotation from Isaiah? What other things has he mentioned?
  • 2 Ne 9:41-43: What do the various types or symbols Jacob use show us? How do they connect his prophecy to other prophecies, specifically to what he has quoted from Isaiah? Notice that Jacob once again connects learning and wealth in v. 42, as he did in vv. 29-30.
  • 2 Ne 9:42: Where in LDS practice do we knock to enter into the presence of the Lord?
  • 2 Ne 9:47-48: What does Jacob imply about our feeling that we mustn’t ever say harsh things to one another? Under what circumstances would such harshness be permitted? How do we avoid using verses like this as an excuse for unnecessary and unkind harshness?
  • 2 Ne 9:50: Jacob quotes Isaiah again (Isa 55:1-2). Isaiah’s words seem never to be far from his thoughts as he delivers his sermon. Why might that be? The connection between the two seems to demand that we think about the relation of what he says to what Isaiah says if we are to understand fully Jacob’s message.
  • 2 Ne 9:50: What is the point of this verse? How does it relate to such things as Paul’s letter to the Romans where he teaches us that salvation comes by grace?
  • 2 Ne 9:51: How does v. 50 help explain this verse? What is of value? What is free? What is of no worth?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: What is the relation of this verse to the two that immediately precede it?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: "pray unto him continually by day, and give thanks unto his holy name by night. Do you think that the day or night reference is task specific? Meaning, that we should be more "pray-oriented" ("ask-oriented?") in the day and then be more "thankful-oriented" at night?
  • 2 Ne 9:53: In what sense is this a repetition of everything that has been said in the last several chapters? Does thinking in terms of types and shadows throw any light on this verse? Is Jacob drawing a parallel between covenants and condescensions? If so, what does that parallel teach us?

Resources[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7. Shayne M. Bowen, "The Atonement Can Clean, Reclaim, and Sanctify Our Lives," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 33–34. Elder Bowen taught: "The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone... It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means–total, complete, all, forever."

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 9:26-30

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Summary[edit]

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The relationship of Chapter 9 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

This section is for detailed discussion such as the meaning of a symbol, how a doctrinal point is developed throughout a passage, or insights that can be further developed in the future. Contributions may range from polished paragraphs down to a single bullet point. The focus, however, should always be on understanding the scriptural text consistent with LDS doctrine. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 9:7: Infinite. The word "infinite" appears in the King James Version of the Bible just three times, and in each case it is the translation of a different Hebrew word or words. ("Infinite" does not appear in the KJV New Testament.) In Job 25, the Hebrew qets means "without end" and refers to the iniquity of the wicked. In Psalm 147:5, the word micpar means basically "innumerable" and refers in that instance to the understanding or wisdom of the Lord. In Nahum 3:9 a pair of words is used that literally mean "without border" to refer to the limitless strength of Ethiopia (land of Cush) and Egypt.
  • 2 Ne 9:9: Combination. Webster’s 1828 dictionary says that a combination is an intimate union of several persons that has the purpose of bringing something about together.
  • 2 Ne 9:13. The end of verse 13 says that after the resurrection people will have "a perfect knowledge like unto us in the flesh." This suggests that our knowledge is currently perfect. But it isn't, as affirmed by the following clause "save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect." An alternate punctuation might make the meaning more clear:
"...having a perfect knowledge; like unto us in the flesh, save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect."
  • 2 Ne 9:21. Verse 21 can be usefully cross referenced with Alma 7:11-13.
  • 2 Ne 9:26. Verse 26 tells us that the atonement removes the guilt of those who don't obey the law because they don't know the law. We might have thought that such a transgression of the law doesn't require an atonement because the transgressor is not culpable. But it seems from the way Jacob understand the atonement that without the atonement such people would be guilty for transgressing laws they did not know.
  • 2 Ne 9:45. Notice how the command to shake off our chains resonates with the previous verse (and its reference to other verses) to tie these things together.

Unanswered questions[edit]

This section is for questions along the lines of "I still don't understand ..." Please do not be shy. The point of these questions is to identify things that still need to be addressed on this page. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for life application[edit]

This section is for prompts that suggest ways in which a passage can influence a person's life. Prompts may be appropriate either for private self reflection or for a class discussion. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 9:1-3: Why has Jacob read this passage from Isaiah to the Nephites? How will it help them to know that Israel will be restored in the last days? How could they apply this passage to themselves? How can we apply it to ourselves?
  • 2 Ne 9:4ff: How is a discussion of the atonement an explanation of the passage from Isaiah? How are the two related? How does the prophecy of Isaiah typify the atonement? (Such things as bondage and redemption from bondage occur in both discussions. Thinking about how those are alike can help us understand the atonement better and thinking about the atonement can help us understand Isaiah better.)
  • 2 Ne 9:7: What does Jacob mean by an "infinite atonement"?
  • 2 Ne 9:7: Why is it that if we weren't resurrected we would become subject to the devil? What is the connection between Jesus' conquering of physical death and his conquering of spiritual death?
  • 2 Ne 9:8-9: What would happen to us if there were no resurrection? Since there is a resurrection, what do we learn from v. 9? Does that teach us anything about the traditional Christian understanding of hell, where those not saved are punished by being eternally in the presence of Satan?
  • 2 Ne 9:9: What are “secret combinations"? Does secrecy make a combination bad? If so, why? If not, why is it the modifier used here? How are secret combinations antithetical to the gospel? (2 Ne 26:22-28 discusses this.) What kinds of things might count as secret combinations today? beyond the things that we sometimes hear mentioned in very conservative political discussions? Given the definition cited in Webster's 1828 dictionary (see lexical notes below), can we be part of a secret combination without knowing that we are? How do we avoid such combinations? How did the Book of Mormon people avoid them, when they did?
  • 2 Ne 9:10: When Jacob mentions “death and hell,” he seems to mean two things. (This doesn’t seem to me to be a repetition for emphasis.) What does he mean by “death"? What does he mean by “hell"? What does he mean by “death of the body"? by “death of the spirit"? How are these pairs of terms related to each other?
  • 2 Ne 9:13: What is the paradise Jacob is talking about? What do we usually call it?
  • 2 Ne 9:14: What kind of symbolism do you see in the contrast between guilt, uncleanness, and nakedness on the one hand, and enjoyment and the clothing of purity and the robe of righteousness on the other hand? Does reference back to 2 Ne 4:33 add any meaning to this verse? Why does Jacob identify himself with the wicked at the beginning of the verse ("we shall have a perfect knowledge of our guilt")?
  • 2 Ne 9:18: What are the crosses of the world? Who are those who have endured those crosses? Does this verse and those that follow have any connection to the passage from Isaiah that Jacob read? Why is the cross an important symbol in the Book of Mormon?
  • 2 Ne 9:21-22: Does this prophecy help us understand better the promises made to Israel by Isaiah? What does “hearken” mean? How do we hearken to the voice of the Lord? Is it possible to have faith but not to hearken or to hearken but not to have faith?
  • 2 Ne 9:22: We often consider the Atonement to consist of two almost separate parts--the suffering for our sins to make possible repentance, and the resurrection to make possible immortality. However, v. 22 links the two by stating that the suffering of sins took place to make possible the resurrection. How does Christ's suffering make the resurrection possible?
  • 2 Ne 9:23: This implies that we are commanded to have "perfect faith" in Chist--how do we obtain "perfect faith"?
  • 2 Ne 9:24: What reason does this verse give for the damnation of those who refuse to repent? Why is that the appropriate explanation for this discussion? In fact, what are we to make of an explanation like that?
  • 2 Ne 9:25-26: We sometimes speak as if the atonement is required because there is a law that God must obey. Does Jacob speak that way? What does he say? Who has given the law? Whose justice is it that must be satisfied?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-33: What part of Isaiah’s prophecy do these refer to and amplify?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-29: What kind of “wisdom” does Jacob warn against? What makes that supposed wisdom foolishness?
  • 2 Ne 9:29: What does it mean to "hearken unto the counsels of God"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: How might a wealthy person "despise the poor"? How might a wealthy person "persecute the meek"? How might wealthy people have their hearts "upon their treasures"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: What does it mean to make treasure your god?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why doesn't Jacob give the rich an out here in the same way he does the learned in v. 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why does Jacob warn the rich? Does he warn all of those who are rich or only some? What does it mean to be “rich as to the things of the world"? How much does one have to have to be described that way? Does this verse give us any understanding of such scriptures as Matt 19:21-26 and Mark 10:21-27? Together, vv. 29-30 seem to connect learning with riches. Why might they do so? What is the connection?
  • 2 Ne 9:34-37: Does Jacob’s warning turn to a different kind of sin here? If so, what is the difference? What is the similarity of the sins of these verses to those of 28-33?
  • 2 Ne 9:37: In what sense is this verse the culmination of the list that began in v. 28?
  • 2 Ne 9:38: What does it mean to die in one’s sins? How do we avoid that?
  • 2 Ne 9:40: When Jacob asks us to remember the greatness of The Holy One of Israel, what kinds of things does he want us to remember? What kinds of things which show that greatness did he mention in the quotation from Isaiah? What other things has he mentioned?
  • 2 Ne 9:41-43: What do the various types or symbols Jacob use show us? How do they connect his prophecy to other prophecies, specifically to what he has quoted from Isaiah? Notice that Jacob once again connects learning and wealth in v. 42, as he did in vv. 29-30.
  • 2 Ne 9:42: Where in LDS practice do we knock to enter into the presence of the Lord?
  • 2 Ne 9:47-48: What does Jacob imply about our feeling that we mustn’t ever say harsh things to one another? Under what circumstances would such harshness be permitted? How do we avoid using verses like this as an excuse for unnecessary and unkind harshness?
  • 2 Ne 9:50: Jacob quotes Isaiah again (Isa 55:1-2). Isaiah’s words seem never to be far from his thoughts as he delivers his sermon. Why might that be? The connection between the two seems to demand that we think about the relation of what he says to what Isaiah says if we are to understand fully Jacob’s message.
  • 2 Ne 9:50: What is the point of this verse? How does it relate to such things as Paul’s letter to the Romans where he teaches us that salvation comes by grace?
  • 2 Ne 9:51: How does v. 50 help explain this verse? What is of value? What is free? What is of no worth?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: What is the relation of this verse to the two that immediately precede it?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: "pray unto him continually by day, and give thanks unto his holy name by night. Do you think that the day or night reference is task specific? Meaning, that we should be more "pray-oriented" ("ask-oriented?") in the day and then be more "thankful-oriented" at night?
  • 2 Ne 9:53: In what sense is this a repetition of everything that has been said in the last several chapters? Does thinking in terms of types and shadows throw any light on this verse? Is Jacob drawing a parallel between covenants and condescensions? If so, what does that parallel teach us?

Resources[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7. Shayne M. Bowen, "The Atonement Can Clean, Reclaim, and Sanctify Our Lives," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 33–34. Elder Bowen taught: "The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone... It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means–total, complete, all, forever."

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 9:31-35

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  • 2 Ne 9:7: Infinite. The word "infinite" appears in the King James Version of the Bible just three times, and in each case it is the translation of a different Hebrew word or words. ("Infinite" does not appear in the KJV New Testament.) In Job 25, the Hebrew qets means "without end" and refers to the iniquity of the wicked. In Psalm 147:5, the word micpar means basically "innumerable" and refers in that instance to the understanding or wisdom of the Lord. In Nahum 3:9 a pair of words is used that literally mean "without border" to refer to the limitless strength of Ethiopia (land of Cush) and Egypt.
  • 2 Ne 9:9: Combination. Webster’s 1828 dictionary says that a combination is an intimate union of several persons that has the purpose of bringing something about together.
  • 2 Ne 9:13. The end of verse 13 says that after the resurrection people will have "a perfect knowledge like unto us in the flesh." This suggests that our knowledge is currently perfect. But it isn't, as affirmed by the following clause "save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect." An alternate punctuation might make the meaning more clear:
"...having a perfect knowledge; like unto us in the flesh, save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect."
  • 2 Ne 9:21. Verse 21 can be usefully cross referenced with Alma 7:11-13.
  • 2 Ne 9:26. Verse 26 tells us that the atonement removes the guilt of those who don't obey the law because they don't know the law. We might have thought that such a transgression of the law doesn't require an atonement because the transgressor is not culpable. But it seems from the way Jacob understand the atonement that without the atonement such people would be guilty for transgressing laws they did not know.
  • 2 Ne 9:45. Notice how the command to shake off our chains resonates with the previous verse (and its reference to other verses) to tie these things together.

Unanswered questions[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:1-3: Why has Jacob read this passage from Isaiah to the Nephites? How will it help them to know that Israel will be restored in the last days? How could they apply this passage to themselves? How can we apply it to ourselves?
  • 2 Ne 9:4ff: How is a discussion of the atonement an explanation of the passage from Isaiah? How are the two related? How does the prophecy of Isaiah typify the atonement? (Such things as bondage and redemption from bondage occur in both discussions. Thinking about how those are alike can help us understand the atonement better and thinking about the atonement can help us understand Isaiah better.)
  • 2 Ne 9:7: What does Jacob mean by an "infinite atonement"?
  • 2 Ne 9:7: Why is it that if we weren't resurrected we would become subject to the devil? What is the connection between Jesus' conquering of physical death and his conquering of spiritual death?
  • 2 Ne 9:8-9: What would happen to us if there were no resurrection? Since there is a resurrection, what do we learn from v. 9? Does that teach us anything about the traditional Christian understanding of hell, where those not saved are punished by being eternally in the presence of Satan?
  • 2 Ne 9:9: What are “secret combinations"? Does secrecy make a combination bad? If so, why? If not, why is it the modifier used here? How are secret combinations antithetical to the gospel? (2 Ne 26:22-28 discusses this.) What kinds of things might count as secret combinations today? beyond the things that we sometimes hear mentioned in very conservative political discussions? Given the definition cited in Webster's 1828 dictionary (see lexical notes below), can we be part of a secret combination without knowing that we are? How do we avoid such combinations? How did the Book of Mormon people avoid them, when they did?
  • 2 Ne 9:10: When Jacob mentions “death and hell,” he seems to mean two things. (This doesn’t seem to me to be a repetition for emphasis.) What does he mean by “death"? What does he mean by “hell"? What does he mean by “death of the body"? by “death of the spirit"? How are these pairs of terms related to each other?
  • 2 Ne 9:13: What is the paradise Jacob is talking about? What do we usually call it?
  • 2 Ne 9:14: What kind of symbolism do you see in the contrast between guilt, uncleanness, and nakedness on the one hand, and enjoyment and the clothing of purity and the robe of righteousness on the other hand? Does reference back to 2 Ne 4:33 add any meaning to this verse? Why does Jacob identify himself with the wicked at the beginning of the verse ("we shall have a perfect knowledge of our guilt")?
  • 2 Ne 9:18: What are the crosses of the world? Who are those who have endured those crosses? Does this verse and those that follow have any connection to the passage from Isaiah that Jacob read? Why is the cross an important symbol in the Book of Mormon?
  • 2 Ne 9:21-22: Does this prophecy help us understand better the promises made to Israel by Isaiah? What does “hearken” mean? How do we hearken to the voice of the Lord? Is it possible to have faith but not to hearken or to hearken but not to have faith?
  • 2 Ne 9:22: We often consider the Atonement to consist of two almost separate parts--the suffering for our sins to make possible repentance, and the resurrection to make possible immortality. However, v. 22 links the two by stating that the suffering of sins took place to make possible the resurrection. How does Christ's suffering make the resurrection possible?
  • 2 Ne 9:23: This implies that we are commanded to have "perfect faith" in Chist--how do we obtain "perfect faith"?
  • 2 Ne 9:24: What reason does this verse give for the damnation of those who refuse to repent? Why is that the appropriate explanation for this discussion? In fact, what are we to make of an explanation like that?
  • 2 Ne 9:25-26: We sometimes speak as if the atonement is required because there is a law that God must obey. Does Jacob speak that way? What does he say? Who has given the law? Whose justice is it that must be satisfied?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-33: What part of Isaiah’s prophecy do these refer to and amplify?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-29: What kind of “wisdom” does Jacob warn against? What makes that supposed wisdom foolishness?
  • 2 Ne 9:29: What does it mean to "hearken unto the counsels of God"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: How might a wealthy person "despise the poor"? How might a wealthy person "persecute the meek"? How might wealthy people have their hearts "upon their treasures"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: What does it mean to make treasure your god?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why doesn't Jacob give the rich an out here in the same way he does the learned in v. 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why does Jacob warn the rich? Does he warn all of those who are rich or only some? What does it mean to be “rich as to the things of the world"? How much does one have to have to be described that way? Does this verse give us any understanding of such scriptures as Matt 19:21-26 and Mark 10:21-27? Together, vv. 29-30 seem to connect learning with riches. Why might they do so? What is the connection?
  • 2 Ne 9:34-37: Does Jacob’s warning turn to a different kind of sin here? If so, what is the difference? What is the similarity of the sins of these verses to those of 28-33?
  • 2 Ne 9:37: In what sense is this verse the culmination of the list that began in v. 28?
  • 2 Ne 9:38: What does it mean to die in one’s sins? How do we avoid that?
  • 2 Ne 9:40: When Jacob asks us to remember the greatness of The Holy One of Israel, what kinds of things does he want us to remember? What kinds of things which show that greatness did he mention in the quotation from Isaiah? What other things has he mentioned?
  • 2 Ne 9:41-43: What do the various types or symbols Jacob use show us? How do they connect his prophecy to other prophecies, specifically to what he has quoted from Isaiah? Notice that Jacob once again connects learning and wealth in v. 42, as he did in vv. 29-30.
  • 2 Ne 9:42: Where in LDS practice do we knock to enter into the presence of the Lord?
  • 2 Ne 9:47-48: What does Jacob imply about our feeling that we mustn’t ever say harsh things to one another? Under what circumstances would such harshness be permitted? How do we avoid using verses like this as an excuse for unnecessary and unkind harshness?
  • 2 Ne 9:50: Jacob quotes Isaiah again (Isa 55:1-2). Isaiah’s words seem never to be far from his thoughts as he delivers his sermon. Why might that be? The connection between the two seems to demand that we think about the relation of what he says to what Isaiah says if we are to understand fully Jacob’s message.
  • 2 Ne 9:50: What is the point of this verse? How does it relate to such things as Paul’s letter to the Romans where he teaches us that salvation comes by grace?
  • 2 Ne 9:51: How does v. 50 help explain this verse? What is of value? What is free? What is of no worth?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: What is the relation of this verse to the two that immediately precede it?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: "pray unto him continually by day, and give thanks unto his holy name by night. Do you think that the day or night reference is task specific? Meaning, that we should be more "pray-oriented" ("ask-oriented?") in the day and then be more "thankful-oriented" at night?
  • 2 Ne 9:53: In what sense is this a repetition of everything that has been said in the last several chapters? Does thinking in terms of types and shadows throw any light on this verse? Is Jacob drawing a parallel between covenants and condescensions? If so, what does that parallel teach us?

Resources[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7. Shayne M. Bowen, "The Atonement Can Clean, Reclaim, and Sanctify Our Lives," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 33–34. Elder Bowen taught: "The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone... It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means–total, complete, all, forever."

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 9:36-40

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Discussion[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7: Infinite. The word "infinite" appears in the King James Version of the Bible just three times, and in each case it is the translation of a different Hebrew word or words. ("Infinite" does not appear in the KJV New Testament.) In Job 25, the Hebrew qets means "without end" and refers to the iniquity of the wicked. In Psalm 147:5, the word micpar means basically "innumerable" and refers in that instance to the understanding or wisdom of the Lord. In Nahum 3:9 a pair of words is used that literally mean "without border" to refer to the limitless strength of Ethiopia (land of Cush) and Egypt.
  • 2 Ne 9:9: Combination. Webster’s 1828 dictionary says that a combination is an intimate union of several persons that has the purpose of bringing something about together.
  • 2 Ne 9:13. The end of verse 13 says that after the resurrection people will have "a perfect knowledge like unto us in the flesh." This suggests that our knowledge is currently perfect. But it isn't, as affirmed by the following clause "save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect." An alternate punctuation might make the meaning more clear:
"...having a perfect knowledge; like unto us in the flesh, save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect."
  • 2 Ne 9:21. Verse 21 can be usefully cross referenced with Alma 7:11-13.
  • 2 Ne 9:26. Verse 26 tells us that the atonement removes the guilt of those who don't obey the law because they don't know the law. We might have thought that such a transgression of the law doesn't require an atonement because the transgressor is not culpable. But it seems from the way Jacob understand the atonement that without the atonement such people would be guilty for transgressing laws they did not know.
  • 2 Ne 9:45. Notice how the command to shake off our chains resonates with the previous verse (and its reference to other verses) to tie these things together.

Unanswered questions[edit]

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Prompts for life application[edit]

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Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 9:1-3: Why has Jacob read this passage from Isaiah to the Nephites? How will it help them to know that Israel will be restored in the last days? How could they apply this passage to themselves? How can we apply it to ourselves?
  • 2 Ne 9:4ff: How is a discussion of the atonement an explanation of the passage from Isaiah? How are the two related? How does the prophecy of Isaiah typify the atonement? (Such things as bondage and redemption from bondage occur in both discussions. Thinking about how those are alike can help us understand the atonement better and thinking about the atonement can help us understand Isaiah better.)
  • 2 Ne 9:7: What does Jacob mean by an "infinite atonement"?
  • 2 Ne 9:7: Why is it that if we weren't resurrected we would become subject to the devil? What is the connection between Jesus' conquering of physical death and his conquering of spiritual death?
  • 2 Ne 9:8-9: What would happen to us if there were no resurrection? Since there is a resurrection, what do we learn from v. 9? Does that teach us anything about the traditional Christian understanding of hell, where those not saved are punished by being eternally in the presence of Satan?
  • 2 Ne 9:9: What are “secret combinations"? Does secrecy make a combination bad? If so, why? If not, why is it the modifier used here? How are secret combinations antithetical to the gospel? (2 Ne 26:22-28 discusses this.) What kinds of things might count as secret combinations today? beyond the things that we sometimes hear mentioned in very conservative political discussions? Given the definition cited in Webster's 1828 dictionary (see lexical notes below), can we be part of a secret combination without knowing that we are? How do we avoid such combinations? How did the Book of Mormon people avoid them, when they did?
  • 2 Ne 9:10: When Jacob mentions “death and hell,” he seems to mean two things. (This doesn’t seem to me to be a repetition for emphasis.) What does he mean by “death"? What does he mean by “hell"? What does he mean by “death of the body"? by “death of the spirit"? How are these pairs of terms related to each other?
  • 2 Ne 9:13: What is the paradise Jacob is talking about? What do we usually call it?
  • 2 Ne 9:14: What kind of symbolism do you see in the contrast between guilt, uncleanness, and nakedness on the one hand, and enjoyment and the clothing of purity and the robe of righteousness on the other hand? Does reference back to 2 Ne 4:33 add any meaning to this verse? Why does Jacob identify himself with the wicked at the beginning of the verse ("we shall have a perfect knowledge of our guilt")?
  • 2 Ne 9:18: What are the crosses of the world? Who are those who have endured those crosses? Does this verse and those that follow have any connection to the passage from Isaiah that Jacob read? Why is the cross an important symbol in the Book of Mormon?
  • 2 Ne 9:21-22: Does this prophecy help us understand better the promises made to Israel by Isaiah? What does “hearken” mean? How do we hearken to the voice of the Lord? Is it possible to have faith but not to hearken or to hearken but not to have faith?
  • 2 Ne 9:22: We often consider the Atonement to consist of two almost separate parts--the suffering for our sins to make possible repentance, and the resurrection to make possible immortality. However, v. 22 links the two by stating that the suffering of sins took place to make possible the resurrection. How does Christ's suffering make the resurrection possible?
  • 2 Ne 9:23: This implies that we are commanded to have "perfect faith" in Chist--how do we obtain "perfect faith"?
  • 2 Ne 9:24: What reason does this verse give for the damnation of those who refuse to repent? Why is that the appropriate explanation for this discussion? In fact, what are we to make of an explanation like that?
  • 2 Ne 9:25-26: We sometimes speak as if the atonement is required because there is a law that God must obey. Does Jacob speak that way? What does he say? Who has given the law? Whose justice is it that must be satisfied?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-33: What part of Isaiah’s prophecy do these refer to and amplify?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-29: What kind of “wisdom” does Jacob warn against? What makes that supposed wisdom foolishness?
  • 2 Ne 9:29: What does it mean to "hearken unto the counsels of God"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: How might a wealthy person "despise the poor"? How might a wealthy person "persecute the meek"? How might wealthy people have their hearts "upon their treasures"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: What does it mean to make treasure your god?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why doesn't Jacob give the rich an out here in the same way he does the learned in v. 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why does Jacob warn the rich? Does he warn all of those who are rich or only some? What does it mean to be “rich as to the things of the world"? How much does one have to have to be described that way? Does this verse give us any understanding of such scriptures as Matt 19:21-26 and Mark 10:21-27? Together, vv. 29-30 seem to connect learning with riches. Why might they do so? What is the connection?
  • 2 Ne 9:34-37: Does Jacob’s warning turn to a different kind of sin here? If so, what is the difference? What is the similarity of the sins of these verses to those of 28-33?
  • 2 Ne 9:37: In what sense is this verse the culmination of the list that began in v. 28?
  • 2 Ne 9:38: What does it mean to die in one’s sins? How do we avoid that?
  • 2 Ne 9:40: When Jacob asks us to remember the greatness of The Holy One of Israel, what kinds of things does he want us to remember? What kinds of things which show that greatness did he mention in the quotation from Isaiah? What other things has he mentioned?
  • 2 Ne 9:41-43: What do the various types or symbols Jacob use show us? How do they connect his prophecy to other prophecies, specifically to what he has quoted from Isaiah? Notice that Jacob once again connects learning and wealth in v. 42, as he did in vv. 29-30.
  • 2 Ne 9:42: Where in LDS practice do we knock to enter into the presence of the Lord?
  • 2 Ne 9:47-48: What does Jacob imply about our feeling that we mustn’t ever say harsh things to one another? Under what circumstances would such harshness be permitted? How do we avoid using verses like this as an excuse for unnecessary and unkind harshness?
  • 2 Ne 9:50: Jacob quotes Isaiah again (Isa 55:1-2). Isaiah’s words seem never to be far from his thoughts as he delivers his sermon. Why might that be? The connection between the two seems to demand that we think about the relation of what he says to what Isaiah says if we are to understand fully Jacob’s message.
  • 2 Ne 9:50: What is the point of this verse? How does it relate to such things as Paul’s letter to the Romans where he teaches us that salvation comes by grace?
  • 2 Ne 9:51: How does v. 50 help explain this verse? What is of value? What is free? What is of no worth?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: What is the relation of this verse to the two that immediately precede it?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: "pray unto him continually by day, and give thanks unto his holy name by night. Do you think that the day or night reference is task specific? Meaning, that we should be more "pray-oriented" ("ask-oriented?") in the day and then be more "thankful-oriented" at night?
  • 2 Ne 9:53: In what sense is this a repetition of everything that has been said in the last several chapters? Does thinking in terms of types and shadows throw any light on this verse? Is Jacob drawing a parallel between covenants and condescensions? If so, what does that parallel teach us?

Resources[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7. Shayne M. Bowen, "The Atonement Can Clean, Reclaim, and Sanctify Our Lives," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 33–34. Elder Bowen taught: "The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone... It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means–total, complete, all, forever."

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 9:41-45

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Summary[edit]

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Discussion[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7: Infinite. The word "infinite" appears in the King James Version of the Bible just three times, and in each case it is the translation of a different Hebrew word or words. ("Infinite" does not appear in the KJV New Testament.) In Job 25, the Hebrew qets means "without end" and refers to the iniquity of the wicked. In Psalm 147:5, the word micpar means basically "innumerable" and refers in that instance to the understanding or wisdom of the Lord. In Nahum 3:9 a pair of words is used that literally mean "without border" to refer to the limitless strength of Ethiopia (land of Cush) and Egypt.
  • 2 Ne 9:9: Combination. Webster’s 1828 dictionary says that a combination is an intimate union of several persons that has the purpose of bringing something about together.
  • 2 Ne 9:13. The end of verse 13 says that after the resurrection people will have "a perfect knowledge like unto us in the flesh." This suggests that our knowledge is currently perfect. But it isn't, as affirmed by the following clause "save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect." An alternate punctuation might make the meaning more clear:
"...having a perfect knowledge; like unto us in the flesh, save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect."
  • 2 Ne 9:21. Verse 21 can be usefully cross referenced with Alma 7:11-13.
  • 2 Ne 9:26. Verse 26 tells us that the atonement removes the guilt of those who don't obey the law because they don't know the law. We might have thought that such a transgression of the law doesn't require an atonement because the transgressor is not culpable. But it seems from the way Jacob understand the atonement that without the atonement such people would be guilty for transgressing laws they did not know.
  • 2 Ne 9:45. Notice how the command to shake off our chains resonates with the previous verse (and its reference to other verses) to tie these things together.

Unanswered questions[edit]

This section is for questions along the lines of "I still don't understand ..." Please do not be shy. The point of these questions is to identify things that still need to be addressed on this page. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for life application[edit]

This section is for prompts that suggest ways in which a passage can influence a person's life. Prompts may be appropriate either for private self reflection or for a class discussion. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 9:1-3: Why has Jacob read this passage from Isaiah to the Nephites? How will it help them to know that Israel will be restored in the last days? How could they apply this passage to themselves? How can we apply it to ourselves?
  • 2 Ne 9:4ff: How is a discussion of the atonement an explanation of the passage from Isaiah? How are the two related? How does the prophecy of Isaiah typify the atonement? (Such things as bondage and redemption from bondage occur in both discussions. Thinking about how those are alike can help us understand the atonement better and thinking about the atonement can help us understand Isaiah better.)
  • 2 Ne 9:7: What does Jacob mean by an "infinite atonement"?
  • 2 Ne 9:7: Why is it that if we weren't resurrected we would become subject to the devil? What is the connection between Jesus' conquering of physical death and his conquering of spiritual death?
  • 2 Ne 9:8-9: What would happen to us if there were no resurrection? Since there is a resurrection, what do we learn from v. 9? Does that teach us anything about the traditional Christian understanding of hell, where those not saved are punished by being eternally in the presence of Satan?
  • 2 Ne 9:9: What are “secret combinations"? Does secrecy make a combination bad? If so, why? If not, why is it the modifier used here? How are secret combinations antithetical to the gospel? (2 Ne 26:22-28 discusses this.) What kinds of things might count as secret combinations today? beyond the things that we sometimes hear mentioned in very conservative political discussions? Given the definition cited in Webster's 1828 dictionary (see lexical notes below), can we be part of a secret combination without knowing that we are? How do we avoid such combinations? How did the Book of Mormon people avoid them, when they did?
  • 2 Ne 9:10: When Jacob mentions “death and hell,” he seems to mean two things. (This doesn’t seem to me to be a repetition for emphasis.) What does he mean by “death"? What does he mean by “hell"? What does he mean by “death of the body"? by “death of the spirit"? How are these pairs of terms related to each other?
  • 2 Ne 9:13: What is the paradise Jacob is talking about? What do we usually call it?
  • 2 Ne 9:14: What kind of symbolism do you see in the contrast between guilt, uncleanness, and nakedness on the one hand, and enjoyment and the clothing of purity and the robe of righteousness on the other hand? Does reference back to 2 Ne 4:33 add any meaning to this verse? Why does Jacob identify himself with the wicked at the beginning of the verse ("we shall have a perfect knowledge of our guilt")?
  • 2 Ne 9:18: What are the crosses of the world? Who are those who have endured those crosses? Does this verse and those that follow have any connection to the passage from Isaiah that Jacob read? Why is the cross an important symbol in the Book of Mormon?
  • 2 Ne 9:21-22: Does this prophecy help us understand better the promises made to Israel by Isaiah? What does “hearken” mean? How do we hearken to the voice of the Lord? Is it possible to have faith but not to hearken or to hearken but not to have faith?
  • 2 Ne 9:22: We often consider the Atonement to consist of two almost separate parts--the suffering for our sins to make possible repentance, and the resurrection to make possible immortality. However, v. 22 links the two by stating that the suffering of sins took place to make possible the resurrection. How does Christ's suffering make the resurrection possible?
  • 2 Ne 9:23: This implies that we are commanded to have "perfect faith" in Chist--how do we obtain "perfect faith"?
  • 2 Ne 9:24: What reason does this verse give for the damnation of those who refuse to repent? Why is that the appropriate explanation for this discussion? In fact, what are we to make of an explanation like that?
  • 2 Ne 9:25-26: We sometimes speak as if the atonement is required because there is a law that God must obey. Does Jacob speak that way? What does he say? Who has given the law? Whose justice is it that must be satisfied?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-33: What part of Isaiah’s prophecy do these refer to and amplify?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-29: What kind of “wisdom” does Jacob warn against? What makes that supposed wisdom foolishness?
  • 2 Ne 9:29: What does it mean to "hearken unto the counsels of God"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: How might a wealthy person "despise the poor"? How might a wealthy person "persecute the meek"? How might wealthy people have their hearts "upon their treasures"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: What does it mean to make treasure your god?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why doesn't Jacob give the rich an out here in the same way he does the learned in v. 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why does Jacob warn the rich? Does he warn all of those who are rich or only some? What does it mean to be “rich as to the things of the world"? How much does one have to have to be described that way? Does this verse give us any understanding of such scriptures as Matt 19:21-26 and Mark 10:21-27? Together, vv. 29-30 seem to connect learning with riches. Why might they do so? What is the connection?
  • 2 Ne 9:34-37: Does Jacob’s warning turn to a different kind of sin here? If so, what is the difference? What is the similarity of the sins of these verses to those of 28-33?
  • 2 Ne 9:37: In what sense is this verse the culmination of the list that began in v. 28?
  • 2 Ne 9:38: What does it mean to die in one’s sins? How do we avoid that?
  • 2 Ne 9:40: When Jacob asks us to remember the greatness of The Holy One of Israel, what kinds of things does he want us to remember? What kinds of things which show that greatness did he mention in the quotation from Isaiah? What other things has he mentioned?
  • 2 Ne 9:41-43: What do the various types or symbols Jacob use show us? How do they connect his prophecy to other prophecies, specifically to what he has quoted from Isaiah? Notice that Jacob once again connects learning and wealth in v. 42, as he did in vv. 29-30.
  • 2 Ne 9:42: Where in LDS practice do we knock to enter into the presence of the Lord?
  • 2 Ne 9:47-48: What does Jacob imply about our feeling that we mustn’t ever say harsh things to one another? Under what circumstances would such harshness be permitted? How do we avoid using verses like this as an excuse for unnecessary and unkind harshness?
  • 2 Ne 9:50: Jacob quotes Isaiah again (Isa 55:1-2). Isaiah’s words seem never to be far from his thoughts as he delivers his sermon. Why might that be? The connection between the two seems to demand that we think about the relation of what he says to what Isaiah says if we are to understand fully Jacob’s message.
  • 2 Ne 9:50: What is the point of this verse? How does it relate to such things as Paul’s letter to the Romans where he teaches us that salvation comes by grace?
  • 2 Ne 9:51: How does v. 50 help explain this verse? What is of value? What is free? What is of no worth?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: What is the relation of this verse to the two that immediately precede it?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: "pray unto him continually by day, and give thanks unto his holy name by night. Do you think that the day or night reference is task specific? Meaning, that we should be more "pray-oriented" ("ask-oriented?") in the day and then be more "thankful-oriented" at night?
  • 2 Ne 9:53: In what sense is this a repetition of everything that has been said in the last several chapters? Does thinking in terms of types and shadows throw any light on this verse? Is Jacob drawing a parallel between covenants and condescensions? If so, what does that parallel teach us?

Resources[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7. Shayne M. Bowen, "The Atonement Can Clean, Reclaim, and Sanctify Our Lives," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 33–34. Elder Bowen taught: "The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone... It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means–total, complete, all, forever."

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 9:46-50

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  • 2 Ne 9:7: Infinite. The word "infinite" appears in the King James Version of the Bible just three times, and in each case it is the translation of a different Hebrew word or words. ("Infinite" does not appear in the KJV New Testament.) In Job 25, the Hebrew qets means "without end" and refers to the iniquity of the wicked. In Psalm 147:5, the word micpar means basically "innumerable" and refers in that instance to the understanding or wisdom of the Lord. In Nahum 3:9 a pair of words is used that literally mean "without border" to refer to the limitless strength of Ethiopia (land of Cush) and Egypt.
  • 2 Ne 9:9: Combination. Webster’s 1828 dictionary says that a combination is an intimate union of several persons that has the purpose of bringing something about together.
  • 2 Ne 9:13. The end of verse 13 says that after the resurrection people will have "a perfect knowledge like unto us in the flesh." This suggests that our knowledge is currently perfect. But it isn't, as affirmed by the following clause "save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect." An alternate punctuation might make the meaning more clear:
"...having a perfect knowledge; like unto us in the flesh, save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect."
  • 2 Ne 9:21. Verse 21 can be usefully cross referenced with Alma 7:11-13.
  • 2 Ne 9:26. Verse 26 tells us that the atonement removes the guilt of those who don't obey the law because they don't know the law. We might have thought that such a transgression of the law doesn't require an atonement because the transgressor is not culpable. But it seems from the way Jacob understand the atonement that without the atonement such people would be guilty for transgressing laws they did not know.
  • 2 Ne 9:45. Notice how the command to shake off our chains resonates with the previous verse (and its reference to other verses) to tie these things together.

Unanswered questions[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:1-3: Why has Jacob read this passage from Isaiah to the Nephites? How will it help them to know that Israel will be restored in the last days? How could they apply this passage to themselves? How can we apply it to ourselves?
  • 2 Ne 9:4ff: How is a discussion of the atonement an explanation of the passage from Isaiah? How are the two related? How does the prophecy of Isaiah typify the atonement? (Such things as bondage and redemption from bondage occur in both discussions. Thinking about how those are alike can help us understand the atonement better and thinking about the atonement can help us understand Isaiah better.)
  • 2 Ne 9:7: What does Jacob mean by an "infinite atonement"?
  • 2 Ne 9:7: Why is it that if we weren't resurrected we would become subject to the devil? What is the connection between Jesus' conquering of physical death and his conquering of spiritual death?
  • 2 Ne 9:8-9: What would happen to us if there were no resurrection? Since there is a resurrection, what do we learn from v. 9? Does that teach us anything about the traditional Christian understanding of hell, where those not saved are punished by being eternally in the presence of Satan?
  • 2 Ne 9:9: What are “secret combinations"? Does secrecy make a combination bad? If so, why? If not, why is it the modifier used here? How are secret combinations antithetical to the gospel? (2 Ne 26:22-28 discusses this.) What kinds of things might count as secret combinations today? beyond the things that we sometimes hear mentioned in very conservative political discussions? Given the definition cited in Webster's 1828 dictionary (see lexical notes below), can we be part of a secret combination without knowing that we are? How do we avoid such combinations? How did the Book of Mormon people avoid them, when they did?
  • 2 Ne 9:10: When Jacob mentions “death and hell,” he seems to mean two things. (This doesn’t seem to me to be a repetition for emphasis.) What does he mean by “death"? What does he mean by “hell"? What does he mean by “death of the body"? by “death of the spirit"? How are these pairs of terms related to each other?
  • 2 Ne 9:13: What is the paradise Jacob is talking about? What do we usually call it?
  • 2 Ne 9:14: What kind of symbolism do you see in the contrast between guilt, uncleanness, and nakedness on the one hand, and enjoyment and the clothing of purity and the robe of righteousness on the other hand? Does reference back to 2 Ne 4:33 add any meaning to this verse? Why does Jacob identify himself with the wicked at the beginning of the verse ("we shall have a perfect knowledge of our guilt")?
  • 2 Ne 9:18: What are the crosses of the world? Who are those who have endured those crosses? Does this verse and those that follow have any connection to the passage from Isaiah that Jacob read? Why is the cross an important symbol in the Book of Mormon?
  • 2 Ne 9:21-22: Does this prophecy help us understand better the promises made to Israel by Isaiah? What does “hearken” mean? How do we hearken to the voice of the Lord? Is it possible to have faith but not to hearken or to hearken but not to have faith?
  • 2 Ne 9:22: We often consider the Atonement to consist of two almost separate parts--the suffering for our sins to make possible repentance, and the resurrection to make possible immortality. However, v. 22 links the two by stating that the suffering of sins took place to make possible the resurrection. How does Christ's suffering make the resurrection possible?
  • 2 Ne 9:23: This implies that we are commanded to have "perfect faith" in Chist--how do we obtain "perfect faith"?
  • 2 Ne 9:24: What reason does this verse give for the damnation of those who refuse to repent? Why is that the appropriate explanation for this discussion? In fact, what are we to make of an explanation like that?
  • 2 Ne 9:25-26: We sometimes speak as if the atonement is required because there is a law that God must obey. Does Jacob speak that way? What does he say? Who has given the law? Whose justice is it that must be satisfied?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-33: What part of Isaiah’s prophecy do these refer to and amplify?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-29: What kind of “wisdom” does Jacob warn against? What makes that supposed wisdom foolishness?
  • 2 Ne 9:29: What does it mean to "hearken unto the counsels of God"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: How might a wealthy person "despise the poor"? How might a wealthy person "persecute the meek"? How might wealthy people have their hearts "upon their treasures"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: What does it mean to make treasure your god?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why doesn't Jacob give the rich an out here in the same way he does the learned in v. 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why does Jacob warn the rich? Does he warn all of those who are rich or only some? What does it mean to be “rich as to the things of the world"? How much does one have to have to be described that way? Does this verse give us any understanding of such scriptures as Matt 19:21-26 and Mark 10:21-27? Together, vv. 29-30 seem to connect learning with riches. Why might they do so? What is the connection?
  • 2 Ne 9:34-37: Does Jacob’s warning turn to a different kind of sin here? If so, what is the difference? What is the similarity of the sins of these verses to those of 28-33?
  • 2 Ne 9:37: In what sense is this verse the culmination of the list that began in v. 28?
  • 2 Ne 9:38: What does it mean to die in one’s sins? How do we avoid that?
  • 2 Ne 9:40: When Jacob asks us to remember the greatness of The Holy One of Israel, what kinds of things does he want us to remember? What kinds of things which show that greatness did he mention in the quotation from Isaiah? What other things has he mentioned?
  • 2 Ne 9:41-43: What do the various types or symbols Jacob use show us? How do they connect his prophecy to other prophecies, specifically to what he has quoted from Isaiah? Notice that Jacob once again connects learning and wealth in v. 42, as he did in vv. 29-30.
  • 2 Ne 9:42: Where in LDS practice do we knock to enter into the presence of the Lord?
  • 2 Ne 9:47-48: What does Jacob imply about our feeling that we mustn’t ever say harsh things to one another? Under what circumstances would such harshness be permitted? How do we avoid using verses like this as an excuse for unnecessary and unkind harshness?
  • 2 Ne 9:50: Jacob quotes Isaiah again (Isa 55:1-2). Isaiah’s words seem never to be far from his thoughts as he delivers his sermon. Why might that be? The connection between the two seems to demand that we think about the relation of what he says to what Isaiah says if we are to understand fully Jacob’s message.
  • 2 Ne 9:50: What is the point of this verse? How does it relate to such things as Paul’s letter to the Romans where he teaches us that salvation comes by grace?
  • 2 Ne 9:51: How does v. 50 help explain this verse? What is of value? What is free? What is of no worth?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: What is the relation of this verse to the two that immediately precede it?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: "pray unto him continually by day, and give thanks unto his holy name by night. Do you think that the day or night reference is task specific? Meaning, that we should be more "pray-oriented" ("ask-oriented?") in the day and then be more "thankful-oriented" at night?
  • 2 Ne 9:53: In what sense is this a repetition of everything that has been said in the last several chapters? Does thinking in terms of types and shadows throw any light on this verse? Is Jacob drawing a parallel between covenants and condescensions? If so, what does that parallel teach us?

Resources[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7. Shayne M. Bowen, "The Atonement Can Clean, Reclaim, and Sanctify Our Lives," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 33–34. Elder Bowen taught: "The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone... It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means–total, complete, all, forever."

Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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2 Ne 9:51-54

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Summary[edit]

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The relationship of Chapter 9 to the rest of Chapters 6-10 is discussed at Chapters 6-10.

Discussion[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 9:7: Infinite. The word "infinite" appears in the King James Version of the Bible just three times, and in each case it is the translation of a different Hebrew word or words. ("Infinite" does not appear in the KJV New Testament.) In Job 25, the Hebrew qets means "without end" and refers to the iniquity of the wicked. In Psalm 147:5, the word micpar means basically "innumerable" and refers in that instance to the understanding or wisdom of the Lord. In Nahum 3:9 a pair of words is used that literally mean "without border" to refer to the limitless strength of Ethiopia (land of Cush) and Egypt.
  • 2 Ne 9:9: Combination. Webster’s 1828 dictionary says that a combination is an intimate union of several persons that has the purpose of bringing something about together.
  • 2 Ne 9:13. The end of verse 13 says that after the resurrection people will have "a perfect knowledge like unto us in the flesh." This suggests that our knowledge is currently perfect. But it isn't, as affirmed by the following clause "save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect." An alternate punctuation might make the meaning more clear:
"...having a perfect knowledge; like unto us in the flesh, save it be that our knowledge shall be perfect."
  • 2 Ne 9:21. Verse 21 can be usefully cross referenced with Alma 7:11-13.
  • 2 Ne 9:26. Verse 26 tells us that the atonement removes the guilt of those who don't obey the law because they don't know the law. We might have thought that such a transgression of the law doesn't require an atonement because the transgressor is not culpable. But it seems from the way Jacob understand the atonement that without the atonement such people would be guilty for transgressing laws they did not know.
  • 2 Ne 9:45. Notice how the command to shake off our chains resonates with the previous verse (and its reference to other verses) to tie these things together.

Unanswered questions[edit]

This section is for questions along the lines of "I still don't understand ..." Please do not be shy. The point of these questions is to identify things that still need to be addressed on this page. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for life application[edit]

This section is for prompts that suggest ways in which a passage can influence a person's life. Prompts may be appropriate either for private self reflection or for a class discussion. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

Prompts for further study[edit]

This section is for prompts that invite us to think about a passage more deeply or in a new way. These are not necessarily questions that beg for answers, but rather prompts along the lines of "Have you ever thought about ..." Prompts are most helpful when they are developed individually, thoughtfully, and with enough background information to clearly indicate a particular direction for further study or thought. Click the link above and to the right to edit or add content to this heading. →

  • 2 Ne 9:1-3: Why has Jacob read this passage from Isaiah to the Nephites? How will it help them to know that Israel will be restored in the last days? How could they apply this passage to themselves? How can we apply it to ourselves?
  • 2 Ne 9:4ff: How is a discussion of the atonement an explanation of the passage from Isaiah? How are the two related? How does the prophecy of Isaiah typify the atonement? (Such things as bondage and redemption from bondage occur in both discussions. Thinking about how those are alike can help us understand the atonement better and thinking about the atonement can help us understand Isaiah better.)
  • 2 Ne 9:7: What does Jacob mean by an "infinite atonement"?
  • 2 Ne 9:7: Why is it that if we weren't resurrected we would become subject to the devil? What is the connection between Jesus' conquering of physical death and his conquering of spiritual death?
  • 2 Ne 9:8-9: What would happen to us if there were no resurrection? Since there is a resurrection, what do we learn from v. 9? Does that teach us anything about the traditional Christian understanding of hell, where those not saved are punished by being eternally in the presence of Satan?
  • 2 Ne 9:9: What are “secret combinations"? Does secrecy make a combination bad? If so, why? If not, why is it the modifier used here? How are secret combinations antithetical to the gospel? (2 Ne 26:22-28 discusses this.) What kinds of things might count as secret combinations today? beyond the things that we sometimes hear mentioned in very conservative political discussions? Given the definition cited in Webster's 1828 dictionary (see lexical notes below), can we be part of a secret combination without knowing that we are? How do we avoid such combinations? How did the Book of Mormon people avoid them, when they did?
  • 2 Ne 9:10: When Jacob mentions “death and hell,” he seems to mean two things. (This doesn’t seem to me to be a repetition for emphasis.) What does he mean by “death"? What does he mean by “hell"? What does he mean by “death of the body"? by “death of the spirit"? How are these pairs of terms related to each other?
  • 2 Ne 9:13: What is the paradise Jacob is talking about? What do we usually call it?
  • 2 Ne 9:14: What kind of symbolism do you see in the contrast between guilt, uncleanness, and nakedness on the one hand, and enjoyment and the clothing of purity and the robe of righteousness on the other hand? Does reference back to 2 Ne 4:33 add any meaning to this verse? Why does Jacob identify himself with the wicked at the beginning of the verse ("we shall have a perfect knowledge of our guilt")?
  • 2 Ne 9:18: What are the crosses of the world? Who are those who have endured those crosses? Does this verse and those that follow have any connection to the passage from Isaiah that Jacob read? Why is the cross an important symbol in the Book of Mormon?
  • 2 Ne 9:21-22: Does this prophecy help us understand better the promises made to Israel by Isaiah? What does “hearken” mean? How do we hearken to the voice of the Lord? Is it possible to have faith but not to hearken or to hearken but not to have faith?
  • 2 Ne 9:22: We often consider the Atonement to consist of two almost separate parts--the suffering for our sins to make possible repentance, and the resurrection to make possible immortality. However, v. 22 links the two by stating that the suffering of sins took place to make possible the resurrection. How does Christ's suffering make the resurrection possible?
  • 2 Ne 9:23: This implies that we are commanded to have "perfect faith" in Chist--how do we obtain "perfect faith"?
  • 2 Ne 9:24: What reason does this verse give for the damnation of those who refuse to repent? Why is that the appropriate explanation for this discussion? In fact, what are we to make of an explanation like that?
  • 2 Ne 9:25-26: We sometimes speak as if the atonement is required because there is a law that God must obey. Does Jacob speak that way? What does he say? Who has given the law? Whose justice is it that must be satisfied?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-33: What part of Isaiah’s prophecy do these refer to and amplify?
  • 2 Ne 9:28-29: What kind of “wisdom” does Jacob warn against? What makes that supposed wisdom foolishness?
  • 2 Ne 9:29: What does it mean to "hearken unto the counsels of God"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: How might a wealthy person "despise the poor"? How might a wealthy person "persecute the meek"? How might wealthy people have their hearts "upon their treasures"?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: What does it mean to make treasure your god?
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why doesn't Jacob give the rich an out here in the same way he does the learned in v. 29? --Why doesn't he say here "to be rich as to the things of the world is good if they ..."
  • 2 Ne 9:30: Why does Jacob warn the rich? Does he warn all of those who are rich or only some? What does it mean to be “rich as to the things of the world"? How much does one have to have to be described that way? Does this verse give us any understanding of such scriptures as Matt 19:21-26 and Mark 10:21-27? Together, vv. 29-30 seem to connect learning with riches. Why might they do so? What is the connection?
  • 2 Ne 9:34-37: Does Jacob’s warning turn to a different kind of sin here? If so, what is the difference? What is the similarity of the sins of these verses to those of 28-33?
  • 2 Ne 9:37: In what sense is this verse the culmination of the list that began in v. 28?
  • 2 Ne 9:38: What does it mean to die in one’s sins? How do we avoid that?
  • 2 Ne 9:40: When Jacob asks us to remember the greatness of The Holy One of Israel, what kinds of things does he want us to remember? What kinds of things which show that greatness did he mention in the quotation from Isaiah? What other things has he mentioned?
  • 2 Ne 9:41-43: What do the various types or symbols Jacob use show us? How do they connect his prophecy to other prophecies, specifically to what he has quoted from Isaiah? Notice that Jacob once again connects learning and wealth in v. 42, as he did in vv. 29-30.
  • 2 Ne 9:42: Where in LDS practice do we knock to enter into the presence of the Lord?
  • 2 Ne 9:47-48: What does Jacob imply about our feeling that we mustn’t ever say harsh things to one another? Under what circumstances would such harshness be permitted? How do we avoid using verses like this as an excuse for unnecessary and unkind harshness?
  • 2 Ne 9:50: Jacob quotes Isaiah again (Isa 55:1-2). Isaiah’s words seem never to be far from his thoughts as he delivers his sermon. Why might that be? The connection between the two seems to demand that we think about the relation of what he says to what Isaiah says if we are to understand fully Jacob’s message.
  • 2 Ne 9:50: What is the point of this verse? How does it relate to such things as Paul’s letter to the Romans where he teaches us that salvation comes by grace?
  • 2 Ne 9:51: How does v. 50 help explain this verse? What is of value? What is free? What is of no worth?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: What is the relation of this verse to the two that immediately precede it?
  • 2 Ne 9:52: "pray unto him continually by day, and give thanks unto his holy name by night. Do you think that the day or night reference is task specific? Meaning, that we should be more "pray-oriented" ("ask-oriented?") in the day and then be more "thankful-oriented" at night?
  • 2 Ne 9:53: In what sense is this a repetition of everything that has been said in the last several chapters? Does thinking in terms of types and shadows throw any light on this verse? Is Jacob drawing a parallel between covenants and condescensions? If so, what does that parallel teach us?

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  • 2 Ne 9:7. Shayne M. Bowen, "The Atonement Can Clean, Reclaim, and Sanctify Our Lives," Ensign, Nov 2006, pp. 33–34. Elder Bowen taught: "The Atonement of Jesus Christ is available to each of us. His Atonement is infinite. It applies to everyone... It can clean, reclaim, and sanctify even you. That is what infinite means–total, complete, all, forever."

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  • 2 Ne 10:3: Christ = Messiah "Christ" is the Greek equivalent of "Messiah"--a term that Nephi and Jacob use earlier in the text. The implications are that (1) the angel spoke the Greek term, (2) Jacob was unfamiliar with the term, but recognized that it referred to the Messiah, (3) Jacob incorrectly inferred that the new term must be the Messiah's name, or (4) Joseph Smith translated the term Christ because this was commonly used in the religious language of his time and in the KJV Bible.
  • 2 Ne 10:3: Behooveth our God. In the v. 3 phrase "behooveth our God", God seems to refer to Christ--that is, it is necessary that Christ is crucified among the Jews. This is consistent with the end of v. 3 phraseology "there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God." An alternate reading would be to interpret God as Heavenly Father, emphasizing that is necessary for the Father to allow his son be crucified in order to redeem mankind.

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  • 2 Ne 10:1: How does this verse explain the scattering of Israel, including the scattering of Lehi’s family? Who were the pastors (shepherds) of the Israelites? (Compare Ezekiel 34:1-10.)
  • 2 Ne 10:2: What does Jacob mean when he says the promises that have been made are promises according to the flesh?
  • 2 Ne 10:3: How does the crucifixtion "behooveth our God"?
  • 2 Ne 10:3ff: The word “Christ” is a title, not a name. Why does Jacob speak of it as a name? Why does Jacob repeat once again the prophecy of Christ’s coming and death? Why does he feel the need to tell the Nephites of this over and over when they aren’t going to have part in it? Is there anything here that they can apply to themselves? How?
  • 2 Ne 10:6: Are these verses teaching that the Jews will suffer because they killed Christ?
  • 2 Ne 10:7: This verse states that when the Jews believe in Christ "they shall be restored in the flesh." Since the Jews still do not recognize that Jesus is the Messiah, should we interpret the modern gathering of Jews to the State of Israel as partial fulfillment of this prophecy, or as something else?
  • 2 Ne 10:6-7: Gathering of the Jews. In reading verses 6-7, it appears that the Jews would be scattered (vs. 6; I think this has happened) and gathered and restored in the flesh to the lands of their inheritance (Israel?) "when the day cometh that they shall believe in me, that I am Christ" (verse 7). The Jews have begun to gather to Israel without, I think, the above condition being met. Am I missing something? Does anyone have insights into these verses/this chapter?
    • Response: Although not directly supported by the text, I think the conflict the Jews are facing over the land of Israel may eventually subside and that it may be correlated with their acceptance of Christ as the Messiah (probably at his second coming?).
  • 2 Ne 10:6: Why have the Jews suffered. he question in verse 6 made me realize something for the first time. It says the Jews will suffer because of their iniquities, not because they crucified Christ. In verse 5 there's a link between the Jews' iniquities and their crucifying of Christ, but the link between the Jews' suffering and their crucifying of Christ only indirect, not direct. So did the Jews suffer because of their iniquity (and their crucifying of Christ was simply a by-product of their iniquity), or because they crucified Christ? One reason I believe the distinction is important is interesting is because saying they suffered because of their iniquity (and not directly b/c they crucified Christ) makes God seem less vindictive.
  • 2 Ne 10:20-23: How do these verses help us understand why Jacob is talking about Christ's birth and death so much (cf. 2 Ne 10:3ff)? How? Why would knowing that our knowledge is from God mean that we ought not to hang down our heads? (Compare this to 2 Ne 4:26ff.) In v. 21, does Jacob assume that he is on an island? Why does Jacob connect his teaching to what his father taught (compare v. 23 with 2 Ne 2:27-29)?
  • 2 Ne 10:20: Hang down our heads. Is this per chance an attempt to describe symptoms of depression?
  • 2 Ne 10:24: What does Jacob mean when he says that it is only in and through the grace of God that we are saved after we are reconciled? How have we seen that explained in previous and later chapters? (Compare 2 Ne 25:23.)

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  • 2 Ne 10:3: Christ = Messiah "Christ" is the Greek equivalent of "Messiah"--a term that Nephi and Jacob use earlier in the text. The implications are that (1) the angel spoke the Greek term, (2) Jacob was unfamiliar with the term, but recognized that it referred to the Messiah, (3) Jacob incorrectly inferred that the new term must be the Messiah's name, or (4) Joseph Smith translated the term Christ because this was commonly used in the religious language of his time and in the KJV Bible.
  • 2 Ne 10:3: Behooveth our God. In the v. 3 phrase "behooveth our God", God seems to refer to Christ--that is, it is necessary that Christ is crucified among the Jews. This is consistent with the end of v. 3 phraseology "there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God." An alternate reading would be to interpret God as Heavenly Father, emphasizing that is necessary for the Father to allow his son be crucified in order to redeem mankind.

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  • 2 Ne 10:1: How does this verse explain the scattering of Israel, including the scattering of Lehi’s family? Who were the pastors (shepherds) of the Israelites? (Compare Ezekiel 34:1-10.)
  • 2 Ne 10:2: What does Jacob mean when he says the promises that have been made are promises according to the flesh?
  • 2 Ne 10:3: How does the crucifixtion "behooveth our God"?
  • 2 Ne 10:3ff: The word “Christ” is a title, not a name. Why does Jacob speak of it as a name? Why does Jacob repeat once again the prophecy of Christ’s coming and death? Why does he feel the need to tell the Nephites of this over and over when they aren’t going to have part in it? Is there anything here that they can apply to themselves? How?
  • 2 Ne 10:6: Are these verses teaching that the Jews will suffer because they killed Christ?
  • 2 Ne 10:7: This verse states that when the Jews believe in Christ "they shall be restored in the flesh." Since the Jews still do not recognize that Jesus is the Messiah, should we interpret the modern gathering of Jews to the State of Israel as partial fulfillment of this prophecy, or as something else?
  • 2 Ne 10:6-7: Gathering of the Jews. In reading verses 6-7, it appears that the Jews would be scattered (vs. 6; I think this has happened) and gathered and restored in the flesh to the lands of their inheritance (Israel?) "when the day cometh that they shall believe in me, that I am Christ" (verse 7). The Jews have begun to gather to Israel without, I think, the above condition being met. Am I missing something? Does anyone have insights into these verses/this chapter?
    • Response: Although not directly supported by the text, I think the conflict the Jews are facing over the land of Israel may eventually subside and that it may be correlated with their acceptance of Christ as the Messiah (probably at his second coming?).
  • 2 Ne 10:6: Why have the Jews suffered. he question in verse 6 made me realize something for the first time. It says the Jews will suffer because of their iniquities, not because they crucified Christ. In verse 5 there's a link between the Jews' iniquities and their crucifying of Christ, but the link between the Jews' suffering and their crucifying of Christ only indirect, not direct. So did the Jews suffer because of their iniquity (and their crucifying of Christ was simply a by-product of their iniquity), or because they crucified Christ? One reason I believe the distinction is important is interesting is because saying they suffered because of their iniquity (and not directly b/c they crucified Christ) makes God seem less vindictive.
  • 2 Ne 10:20-23: How do these verses help us understand why Jacob is talking about Christ's birth and death so much (cf. 2 Ne 10:3ff)? How? Why would knowing that our knowledge is from God mean that we ought not to hang down our heads? (Compare this to 2 Ne 4:26ff.) In v. 21, does Jacob assume that he is on an island? Why does Jacob connect his teaching to what his father taught (compare v. 23 with 2 Ne 2:27-29)?
  • 2 Ne 10:20: Hang down our heads. Is this per chance an attempt to describe symptoms of depression?
  • 2 Ne 10:24: What does Jacob mean when he says that it is only in and through the grace of God that we are saved after we are reconciled? How have we seen that explained in previous and later chapters? (Compare 2 Ne 25:23.)

Resources[edit]

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Notes[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 10:3: Christ = Messiah "Christ" is the Greek equivalent of "Messiah"--a term that Nephi and Jacob use earlier in the text. The implications are that (1) the angel spoke the Greek term, (2) Jacob was unfamiliar with the term, but recognized that it referred to the Messiah, (3) Jacob incorrectly inferred that the new term must be the Messiah's name, or (4) Joseph Smith translated the term Christ because this was commonly used in the religious language of his time and in the KJV Bible.
  • 2 Ne 10:3: Behooveth our God. In the v. 3 phrase "behooveth our God", God seems to refer to Christ--that is, it is necessary that Christ is crucified among the Jews. This is consistent with the end of v. 3 phraseology "there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God." An alternate reading would be to interpret God as Heavenly Father, emphasizing that is necessary for the Father to allow his son be crucified in order to redeem mankind.

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Prompts for further study[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 10:1: How does this verse explain the scattering of Israel, including the scattering of Lehi’s family? Who were the pastors (shepherds) of the Israelites? (Compare Ezekiel 34:1-10.)
  • 2 Ne 10:2: What does Jacob mean when he says the promises that have been made are promises according to the flesh?
  • 2 Ne 10:3: How does the crucifixtion "behooveth our God"?
  • 2 Ne 10:3ff: The word “Christ” is a title, not a name. Why does Jacob speak of it as a name? Why does Jacob repeat once again the prophecy of Christ’s coming and death? Why does he feel the need to tell the Nephites of this over and over when they aren’t going to have part in it? Is there anything here that they can apply to themselves? How?
  • 2 Ne 10:6: Are these verses teaching that the Jews will suffer because they killed Christ?
  • 2 Ne 10:7: This verse states that when the Jews believe in Christ "they shall be restored in the flesh." Since the Jews still do not recognize that Jesus is the Messiah, should we interpret the modern gathering of Jews to the State of Israel as partial fulfillment of this prophecy, or as something else?
  • 2 Ne 10:6-7: Gathering of the Jews. In reading verses 6-7, it appears that the Jews would be scattered (vs. 6; I think this has happened) and gathered and restored in the flesh to the lands of their inheritance (Israel?) "when the day cometh that they shall believe in me, that I am Christ" (verse 7). The Jews have begun to gather to Israel without, I think, the above condition being met. Am I missing something? Does anyone have insights into these verses/this chapter?
    • Response: Although not directly supported by the text, I think the conflict the Jews are facing over the land of Israel may eventually subside and that it may be correlated with their acceptance of Christ as the Messiah (probably at his second coming?).
  • 2 Ne 10:6: Why have the Jews suffered. he question in verse 6 made me realize something for the first time. It says the Jews will suffer because of their iniquities, not because they crucified Christ. In verse 5 there's a link between the Jews' iniquities and their crucifying of Christ, but the link between the Jews' suffering and their crucifying of Christ only indirect, not direct. So did the Jews suffer because of their iniquity (and their crucifying of Christ was simply a by-product of their iniquity), or because they crucified Christ? One reason I believe the distinction is important is interesting is because saying they suffered because of their iniquity (and not directly b/c they crucified Christ) makes God seem less vindictive.
  • 2 Ne 10:20-23: How do these verses help us understand why Jacob is talking about Christ's birth and death so much (cf. 2 Ne 10:3ff)? How? Why would knowing that our knowledge is from God mean that we ought not to hang down our heads? (Compare this to 2 Ne 4:26ff.) In v. 21, does Jacob assume that he is on an island? Why does Jacob connect his teaching to what his father taught (compare v. 23 with 2 Ne 2:27-29)?
  • 2 Ne 10:20: Hang down our heads. Is this per chance an attempt to describe symptoms of depression?
  • 2 Ne 10:24: What does Jacob mean when he says that it is only in and through the grace of God that we are saved after we are reconciled? How have we seen that explained in previous and later chapters? (Compare 2 Ne 25:23.)

Resources[edit]

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Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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  • 2 Ne 10:3: Christ = Messiah "Christ" is the Greek equivalent of "Messiah"--a term that Nephi and Jacob use earlier in the text. The implications are that (1) the angel spoke the Greek term, (2) Jacob was unfamiliar with the term, but recognized that it referred to the Messiah, (3) Jacob incorrectly inferred that the new term must be the Messiah's name, or (4) Joseph Smith translated the term Christ because this was commonly used in the religious language of his time and in the KJV Bible.
  • 2 Ne 10:3: Behooveth our God. In the v. 3 phrase "behooveth our God", God seems to refer to Christ--that is, it is necessary that Christ is crucified among the Jews. This is consistent with the end of v. 3 phraseology "there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God." An alternate reading would be to interpret God as Heavenly Father, emphasizing that is necessary for the Father to allow his son be crucified in order to redeem mankind.

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Prompts for further study[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 10:1: How does this verse explain the scattering of Israel, including the scattering of Lehi’s family? Who were the pastors (shepherds) of the Israelites? (Compare Ezekiel 34:1-10.)
  • 2 Ne 10:2: What does Jacob mean when he says the promises that have been made are promises according to the flesh?
  • 2 Ne 10:3: How does the crucifixtion "behooveth our God"?
  • 2 Ne 10:3ff: The word “Christ” is a title, not a name. Why does Jacob speak of it as a name? Why does Jacob repeat once again the prophecy of Christ’s coming and death? Why does he feel the need to tell the Nephites of this over and over when they aren’t going to have part in it? Is there anything here that they can apply to themselves? How?
  • 2 Ne 10:6: Are these verses teaching that the Jews will suffer because they killed Christ?
  • 2 Ne 10:7: This verse states that when the Jews believe in Christ "they shall be restored in the flesh." Since the Jews still do not recognize that Jesus is the Messiah, should we interpret the modern gathering of Jews to the State of Israel as partial fulfillment of this prophecy, or as something else?
  • 2 Ne 10:6-7: Gathering of the Jews. In reading verses 6-7, it appears that the Jews would be scattered (vs. 6; I think this has happened) and gathered and restored in the flesh to the lands of their inheritance (Israel?) "when the day cometh that they shall believe in me, that I am Christ" (verse 7). The Jews have begun to gather to Israel without, I think, the above condition being met. Am I missing something? Does anyone have insights into these verses/this chapter?
    • Response: Although not directly supported by the text, I think the conflict the Jews are facing over the land of Israel may eventually subside and that it may be correlated with their acceptance of Christ as the Messiah (probably at his second coming?).
  • 2 Ne 10:6: Why have the Jews suffered. he question in verse 6 made me realize something for the first time. It says the Jews will suffer because of their iniquities, not because they crucified Christ. In verse 5 there's a link between the Jews' iniquities and their crucifying of Christ, but the link between the Jews' suffering and their crucifying of Christ only indirect, not direct. So did the Jews suffer because of their iniquity (and their crucifying of Christ was simply a by-product of their iniquity), or because they crucified Christ? One reason I believe the distinction is important is interesting is because saying they suffered because of their iniquity (and not directly b/c they crucified Christ) makes God seem less vindictive.
  • 2 Ne 10:20-23: How do these verses help us understand why Jacob is talking about Christ's birth and death so much (cf. 2 Ne 10:3ff)? How? Why would knowing that our knowledge is from God mean that we ought not to hang down our heads? (Compare this to 2 Ne 4:26ff.) In v. 21, does Jacob assume that he is on an island? Why does Jacob connect his teaching to what his father taught (compare v. 23 with 2 Ne 2:27-29)?
  • 2 Ne 10:20: Hang down our heads. Is this per chance an attempt to describe symptoms of depression?
  • 2 Ne 10:24: What does Jacob mean when he says that it is only in and through the grace of God that we are saved after we are reconciled? How have we seen that explained in previous and later chapters? (Compare 2 Ne 25:23.)

Resources[edit]

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Notes[edit]

Footnotes are not required but are encouraged for factual assertions that average readers cannot easily evaluate for themselves (such as the date of King Solomon’s death or the nuanced definition of a Greek word). In contrast, insights rarely benefit from footnoting, and the focus of this page should always remain on the scriptures themselves rather than what someone has said about them. Links are actively encouraged on all sections of this page, and links to authoritative sources (such as Strong's Bible Concordance or the Joseph Smith Papers) are preferable to footnotes.



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  • 2 Ne 10:3: Christ = Messiah "Christ" is the Greek equivalent of "Messiah"--a term that Nephi and Jacob use earlier in the text. The implications are that (1) the angel spoke the Greek term, (2) Jacob was unfamiliar with the term, but recognized that it referred to the Messiah, (3) Jacob incorrectly inferred that the new term must be the Messiah's name, or (4) Joseph Smith translated the term Christ because this was commonly used in the religious language of his time and in the KJV Bible.
  • 2 Ne 10:3: Behooveth our God. In the v. 3 phrase "behooveth our God", God seems to refer to Christ--that is, it is necessary that Christ is crucified among the Jews. This is consistent with the end of v. 3 phraseology "there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God." An alternate reading would be to interpret God as Heavenly Father, emphasizing that is necessary for the Father to allow his son be crucified in order to redeem mankind.

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Prompts for further study[edit]

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  • 2 Ne 10:1: How does this verse explain the scattering of Israel, including the scattering of Lehi’s family? Who were the pastors (shepherds) of the Israelites? (Compare Ezekiel 34:1-10.)
  • 2 Ne 10:2: What does Jacob mean when he says the promises that have been made are promises according to the flesh?
  • 2 Ne 10:3: How does the crucifixtion "behooveth our God"?
  • 2 Ne 10:3ff: The word “Christ” is a title, not a name. Why does Jacob speak of it as a name? Why does Jacob repeat once again the prophecy of Christ’s coming and death? Why does he feel the need to tell the Nephites of this over and over when they aren’t going to have part in it? Is there anything here that they can apply to themselves? How?
  • 2 Ne 10:6: Are these verses teaching that the Jews will suffer because they killed Christ?
  • 2 Ne 10:7: This verse states that when the Jews believe in Christ "they shall be restored in the flesh." Since the Jews still do not recognize that Jesus is the Messiah, should we interpret the modern gathering of Jews to the State of Israel as partial fulfillment of this prophecy, or as something else?
  • 2 Ne 10:6-7: Gathering of the Jews. In reading verses 6-7, it appears that the Jews would be scattered (vs. 6; I think this has happened) and gathered and restored in the flesh to the lands of their inheritance (Israel?) "when the day cometh that they shall believe in me, that I am Christ" (verse 7). The Jews have begun to gather to Israel without, I think, the above condition being met. Am I missing something? Does anyone have insights into these verses/this chapter?
    • Response: Although not directly supported by the text, I think the conflict the Jews are facing over the land of Israel may eventually subside and that it may be correlated with their acceptance of Christ as the Messiah (probably at his second coming?).
  • 2 Ne 10:6: Why have the Jews suffered. he question in verse 6 made me realize something for the first time. It says the Jews will suffer because of their iniquities, not because they crucified Christ. In verse 5 there's a link between the Jews' iniquities and their crucifying of Christ, but the link between the Jews' suffering and their crucifying of Christ only indirect, not direct. So did the Jews suffer because of their iniquity (and their crucifying of Christ was simply a by-product of their iniquity), or because they crucified Christ? One reason I believe the distinction is important is interesting is because saying they suffered because of their iniquity (and not directly b/c they crucified Christ) makes God seem less vindictive.
  • 2 Ne 10:20-23: How do these verses help us understand why Jacob is talking about Christ's birth and death so much (cf. 2 Ne 10:3ff)? How? Why would knowing that our knowledge is from God mean that we ought not to hang down our heads? (Compare this to 2 Ne 4:26ff.) In v. 21, does Jacob assume that he is on an island? Why does Jacob connect his teaching to what his father taught (compare v. 23 with 2 Ne 2:27-29)?
  • 2 Ne 10:20: Hang down our heads. Is this per chance an attempt to describe symptoms of depression?
  • 2 Ne 10:24: What does Jacob mean when he says that it is only in and through the grace of God that we are saved after we are reconciled? How have we seen that explained in previous and later chapters? (Compare 2 Ne 25:23.)

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